Contract With Western Express

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Auggie69's Comment
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So I got my cdl through a private school. I just recently got hired at western express. While I was out with my trainer I notice a couple red flags that prompted me to start looking for works else where. I decided to go and call my dm about my situation because I wanted to be honest and upfront he then told me I was on a contract. I asked him how since I got my cdl on my own. I went over the paper work I signed before being hired and noticed that I was in a training program. I was then told by my recruiter that if I get a hold of my school and get my transcript my contract could be canceled out. I was wondering if anyone has has this ever happened to them. If I don't finish the contract (6 months) I would have to pay 2500. I feel very unsafe with this company driving there trucks and trailers. My trainer makes me feel unsafe the way he drives and the type of decisions he makes when finding a trailer. ( take trailers with bad breaks and bald tires with out mentioning it to our dm or dispatchers. Not once I seen him do pre trip or post trip that made me feel unsafe as well. When I mentioned it to him he just ignores it and does what he does. Someone tell me what could I possibly do to get out this contract.

Post the contract. It would be interesting to see exactly what you are under contract for.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Kandyman's Comment
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Yes. If you signed a contract you have every right to see exactly wtf you signed. Get a copy. I have atty in my family that specialize in contracts etc Let me know. I will run it through them.

Jorge D.'s Comment
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The pay isn't bad at all but what I seen when it came to there equipment to me it was a red flag. I was going to stay with the company until I seen those two things I'm not going to risk it like most trucker. Getting pulled over or running through an inspection and get caught with bad equipment that will ruin my future. But like I said paying the 2500 isn't a biggie or even if I show them my transcript to get out the contract. To be home more often. Money isn't my main concern but my safety is and my future.

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I guess I'll be paying them the 2500 money ain't a problem if my safety is my main concern. As for the one that worked there for 2 years things might have changed since the time you left western. Like I said in my post I told my dm I wanted out because I got an offer for a job working locally near my home. I was with the idea that I needed otr experience to get hired else where for local work but once I got the call from the local company I mentioned it to my dm out of being honest. He told me about the contract. It is my fault for not throughly reading the agreement. Tbh I thought it was for the bonus they was giving out which was 1500 not a binding commitment to the company for 6 months of work and it broken it would be 2500 cost. I was told by western that they just need my transcript from school so the contract can be changed which will be the first thing I will do on Monday morning.

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No sir, they haven't changed that much in 8 months. Their pay is on the low end but they take very good care of their equipment.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Jorge D.'s Comment
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Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Jorge;

I'm having a 'hella' time (Sorry Laura & PackRat...) linking the code I'm trying to, so ... you'll just have to do the Google thing.

Erroll, I tried your way; it failed me.. or my fingers failed, haha!

Anyway . . . . GOOD GOSH if Western is sending you out with shoddy equipment, CITE THEM .. Via this, Vis a Vis !!

https://csa.fmcsa.dot.gov/SafetyPlanner/MyFiles/SubSections.aspx?ch=21&sec=59&sub=109

Every. Single. Reason. For YOU TO STAND YOUR GROUND, as a driver!~!

~ Anne ~

ps: I really wanna know more about this 'local' (ish) company you are bailing for. How many trucks? Saferweb score? (Do you even know what that is?)

SMH...

If Western has done you 'so' wrong, follow the proper channels with the FMCSA codes I've provided above. Please.

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Yep, coming in with a 'raw' CDL (which is nothing much more than the laminate it's encapsulated in) obligates YOU to TRAIN with SAID COMPANY.... or ANY for that matter.

They put money INTO YOU ... THEY WANT IT BACK IF YOU BAIL.

Seriously, pay the 2.5 K if that's how you see fit . . . but don't be surprised when 'other' companies will see these transactions, and '86 file you.

Again. Just mine & my 20 plus year drivers' experience & advice. . . . and all the above professional drivers that commented.

Best wishes, Jorge!

ps: That CRST contract that our member JRod shared with us . . . IS. NO. JOKE. (It's really 'more' than the money...but .. yeah.)

pps: Ya know, if you bail from W/E . . . any other reputable company that picks you up, is going to start you at the 'back of the class.' Per se. Really, wish you well. Just wish you'd pull up your bootstraps and muscle through it. Sheesh!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

Jorge D.'s Comment
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Work contract was voided!! Thanks for those that helped!!

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Work contract was voided!! Thanks for those that helped!!

Well, KUDOS there! That's a rarity !

Save the FMCSA statutes I quoted for ya, in the event you ever try again.

Thanks, as well....for letting usn's know!

~ Anne ~

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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