Do You Lose Your CDL And Have To Re-test If You Let Your Medical Card Expire? Specifically Delaware

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Harvest's Comment
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Also, wouldn't they want me to surrender my license if I was no longer valid? My physical license is still a CDL , and does not expire until next year. I made sure my license is still valid, but it doesn't tell me the license class on the DMV site.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

G-Town's Comment
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I’m sorry to hear of your injuries.

My suggestion? If you can go to one of the DE DMV offices. I believe you’ll get a straight answer. I’ve been to the one in a Georgetown. Not a bad experience..

Good luck.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Harvest's Comment
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I’m sorry to hear of your injuries.

My suggestion? If you can go to one of the DE DMV offices. I believe you’ll get a straight answer. I’ve been to the one in a Georgetown. Not a bad experience..

Good luck.

Going to the Dover one this Tuesday, live in Dover so not a hike thankfully.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Ryan B.'s Comment
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This information is from a chart on the FMCSA that shows how each state handles expired medical card. For Delaware it says

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Deny commercial privileges and change class of license to a Class D. If no valid med cert on file for 1 year, driver must complete all testing to get commercial privileges back. (eye, written, and road

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Great information there.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Ryan B.'s Comment
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I am going to call Tuesday when they open, would not make a bit of sense if I have to go back to a school just because of a physical.

For some states it happens just that way because an expired CDL over a certain length leads to a downgraded license. Once downgraded, it's basically starting from scratch.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Harvest's Comment
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I am going to call Tuesday when they open, would not make a bit of sense if I have to go back to a school just because of a physical.

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For some states it happens just that way because an expired CDL over a certain length leads to a downgraded license. Once downgraded, it's basically starting from scratch.

Well that's the thing, my cdl itself was not set to expire until next year. I still physically have my license and it is valid. I guess just in the system its a class D. Not sure, I am also curious because although the FMCSA site is a official government site. I went through as much as I possibly could on Delaware DMV site and the only wording I could find was "Downgrade". But it doesn't give much more detail than that.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Ryan B.'s Comment
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I am going to call Tuesday when they open, would not make a bit of sense if I have to go back to a school just because of a physical.

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For some states it happens just that way because an expired CDL over a certain length leads to a downgraded license. Once downgraded, it's basically starting from scratch.

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Well that's the thing, my cdl itself was not set to expire until next year. I still physically have my license and it is valid. I guess just in the system its a class D. Not sure, I am also curious because although the FMCSA site is a official government site. I went through as much as I possibly could on Delaware DMV site and the only wording I could find was "Downgrade". But it doesn't give much more detail than that.

Think of it like this:

A person must possess an unrestricted standard motor vehicle license, some states calling it a class D, before acquiring a CDL. (I am not sure if this is all states or not, so suffice to say "some.") Earning a CLP is the first step toward a CDL. The next step is ELDT. After that step is earning the CDL through the 3-part exam.

So, if a license is downgraded from a class A CDL to a class D non-CDL, why would it be surprising for the entities that govern acquiring licenses to require the person who has a license downgraded to class D start from the beginning? To put this in perspective, a license doesn't become downgraded without an extended amount of time with the CDL not being used or an activating event that requires the license to be downgraded. In either situation, it makes sense to have the license holder prove that he or she is competent to drive a commercial vehicle. If the driver wasn't thoughtful enough to maintain the license, then it's highly probably that said driver hasn't been thoughtful enough to keep driving skills as sharp as possible.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Harvest's Comment
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I am going to call Tuesday when they open, would not make a bit of sense if I have to go back to a school just because of a physical.

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For some states it happens just that way because an expired CDL over a certain length leads to a downgraded license. Once downgraded, it's basically starting from scratch.

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Well that's the thing, my cdl itself was not set to expire until next year. I still physically have my license and it is valid. I guess just in the system its a class D. Not sure, I am also curious because although the FMCSA site is a official government site. I went through as much as I possibly could on Delaware DMV site and the only wording I could find was "Downgrade". But it doesn't give much more detail than that.

double-quotes-end.png

Think of it like this:

A person must possess an unrestricted standard motor vehicle license, some states calling it a class D, before acquiring a CDL. (I am not sure if this is all states or not, so suffice to say "some.") Earning a CLP is the first step toward a CDL. The next step is ELDT. After that step is earning the CDL through the 3-part exam.

So, if a license is downgraded from a class A CDL to a class D non-CDL, why would it be surprising for the entities that govern acquiring licenses to require the person who has a license downgraded to class D start from the beginning? To put this in perspective, a license doesn't become downgraded without an extended amount of time with the CDL not being used or an activating event that requires the license to be downgraded. In either situation, it makes sense to have the license holder prove that he or she is competent to drive a commercial vehicle. If the driver wasn't thoughtful enough to maintain the license, then it's highly probably that said driver hasn't been thoughtful enough to keep driving skills as sharp as possible.

I could see if it was 5 years since someone drove, but not 1 year. Most states reinstate you once you get your physical.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Ryan B.'s Comment
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I could see if it was 5 years since someone drove, but not 1 year. Most states reinstate you once you get your physical.

That's the situation you are facing now, so get to working on obtaining your CDL again, if you want. Complaints here about the matter won't help you. It is what it is, at this point.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Harvest's Comment
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I decided to start training to be a welder. I have orientation at the end of this month. I had to pull everything into account, as I do love driving. However, I do not want to be OTR and live in a truck again to obtain my CDL for free. Nor do I currently have the 5000$ to get my license from a private school. Welding was always a trade that fascinated me, so I am going that route, and can afford the training. I plan to get my CDL again someday, after doing some research, their are some very very well paying jobs that require welding with a CDL. Obviously these jobs require allot of experience. But I think this is the road I am going to go down. Trucking was a awesome experience with allot of lows, and highs. And memories I will have forever. I had to do allot of growing up, when I was 21, I was definitely not a mature man. I gained allot of valuable life lessons along the road. Everything happens for a reason, and I don't think it will be the last time I climb into a truck.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

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