Well My Plans Hit A Road Block

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David's Comment
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Everything here at Prime Inc was going great, day two just finished my computer training and I get called into the office..

Apparently my last job, (Salvation Army) decided to put in my file that they sent over, the 3 incidents I had involving tree branches. (Low hanging branches that hit the side of the truck causing minor damage, counted as "preventable" accidents)

I was told by HR before I left that since I wasn't at fault, they wouldn't put them in my file and only did the paperwork as a "formality".. apparently they lied and I got hit with not having them on my application to Prime... So now I get to go home with no job... Really big disappointment. But I guess they only thing to do is keep trying.

Just goes to show, never trust a company if your their primary class A driver.

David

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

HAMMERTIME's Comment
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Everything here at prime was going great, day two just finished my computer training and I get called into the office..

apparently My last job, (Salvation Army) decided to put in my file that they sent over, the 3 incidents I had involving tree branches. (Low hanging branches that hit the side of the truck causing minor damage, counted as "preventable" accidents)

I was told by HR before I left that since I wasn't at fault, they wouldn't put them in my file and only did the paperwork as a "formality".. apparently they lied and I got hit with not having them on my application to prime... So now I get to go home with no job... Really big disappointment. But I guess they only thing to do is keep trying.

Just goes to show, never trust a company if your their primary class A driver.

David

Sorry to hear, try to go home and fight it!

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

David's Comment
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Everything here at prime was going great, day two just finished my computer training and I get called into the office..

apparently My last job, (Salvation Army) decided to put in my file that they sent over, the 3 incidents I had involving tree branches. (Low hanging branches that hit the side of the truck causing minor damage, counted as "preventable" accidents)

I was told by HR before I left that since I wasn't at fault, they wouldn't put them in my file and only did the paperwork as a "formality".. apparently they lied and I got hit with not having them on my application to prime... So now I get to go home with no job... Really big disappointment. But I guess they only thing to do is keep trying.

Just goes to show, never trust a company if your their primary class A driver.

David

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Sorry to hear, try to go home and fight it!

Yea that's my plan. I left on good terms with them, should be no reason behind stabbing me In the back...

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Oh man, that's a huge bummer! Really huge!

That kind of thing happens a lot in trucking. Little incidents that seem like no big deal sometimes get reported and sometimes do not. It's hard to know if you should put them on your application or not. It always seems safer to divulge everything, until you find out you got rejected for divulging something you didn't have to.

I guess all you can do now is find out exactly what Salvation Army will be telling people and make sure it matches up with what you're putting on your application. Unfortunately a lot of companies won't hire someone with three reported incidents, no matter how tiny they are. But of course many companies will sprinkle a bit of common sense on the matter and decide that a few scratches from tree branches isn't something to panic over.

But as always, remain professional when you speak with your former company. Just when you think they can't do anything else to make your situation worse........they'll find a way.

David's Comment
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Oh man, that's a huge bummer! Really huge!

That kind of thing happens a lot in trucking. Little incidents that seem like no big deal sometimes get reported and sometimes do not. It's hard to know if you should put them on your application or not. It always seems safer to divulge everything, until you find out you got rejected for divulging something you didn't have to.

I guess all you can do now is find out exactly what Salvation Army will be telling people and make sure it matches up with what you're putting on your application. Unfortunately a lot of companies won't hire someone with three reported incidents, no matter how tiny they are. But of course many companies will sprinkle a bit of common sense on the matter and decide that a few scratches from tree branches isn't something to panic over.

But as always, remain professional when you speak with your former company. Just when you think they can't do anything else to make your situation worse........they'll find a way.

Completely agree with you Brett. I plan on going to get a copy of my file from them. I've been looking at other companies and plan On talking to with them when I get home.

Jeremiah's Comment
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Sorry to hear David I had to but that I got. Exp reg on my app even tho it's not on my background something about them giving me a passport and it will show up it went to my company not to me but he said it will show up. Also they sent two guys home cuz they went to down town Springfield and had a good time. After he said like 10 times not to do that. I mean really I just got in by the hairs on my chin. My bp was 167/100 Monday said I had to come back tues man I was freaking out. This lady for Haiti said to eat 2 ears of garlic at night with lime juice and do it again in the morning and it Will drop to 130/80. She was Did not lie it was 135/83. But did they till you to come back in 30 days after u fix it. One guy is on workers comp and he has to go home and get off of it and wait 30 days to come back.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Make sure you get a copy of your DAC if you haven't already. You have to know what's on that. Every major company will be checking it.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Old School's Comment
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Wow, what a disappointment! Sorry to hear about that David.

I completely agree with Brett, you need to take a look at your DAC , but I doubt the Salvation Army even reports to DAC. It may just be some information that is on a page in your employee file that they are faxing out to inquirers. I can't really say, but they shouldn't really be giving out that information. I would definitely speak to the HR people, and see if you can get to the bottom of it, because it could really bite you continually if you don't know how to deal with the ramifications of it. Three incidents is tough, but not impossible to get past. You can always come over here and join this crew I work for - they've got plenty of guys here with blemishes on their records, the sad part is that it really shows most of the time.

I know all about that unnerving message that you need to speak with someone in the offices - it is usually not good when they say that to you.

Wishing you the best David! good-luck.gif

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

David's Comment
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Your right OS, they don't report to DAC , I did however request my report before I left for Prime. Should be sitting at home now.

I always thought they could only send out hire date and end date, that's what I've been told atleast, I'm not sure if it was prime who did the digging or if salvation army just decided to throw everything out. I'm hoping to get to the end of this, otherwise I'll be looking into legal actions.....

Thanks guys for the support. I'm not down yet, just slide off the horse.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

guyjax(Guy Hodges)'s Comment
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Your right OS, they don't report to DAC , I did however request my report before I left for Prime. Should be sitting at home now.

I always thought they could only send out hire date and end date, that's what I've been told atleast, I'm not sure if it was prime who did the digging or if salvation army just decided to throw everything out. I'm hoping to get to the end of this, otherwise I'll be looking into legal actions.....

Thanks guys for the support. I'm not down yet, just slide off the horse.

Yea this sucks but does happen. Here is the deal. A hitting a low hanging tree branch is a "preventable" accident. You could have not driven into them. Not being smart a$$ here. Just telling you how insurance companies are looking at it and it is the trucking companies insurance that your are up against. So legally yea it's a preventable accident.

Legal cost alone makes this a daunting propect at best. Your talking about the biggest charitable organization in the US (world wide?) besides the Red Cross. Which also means one of the best well funded organizations also meaning they have more lawyers than should be legal due to their charitable status. The legal paper work alone would drowned your lawyer and even if it was to see the light of day it would be 10 years down the line if at all.

I know the type of law it is and before the state or feds even look at it they will let your lawyer swim through the many thousands of hours of legal work that will be envolved.

Let's hope you can afford the lawyer that it's going to take to challenge an army of lawyers the Salvation Army is going to through at you.

Sound discouraging yet? Well I hope so because. Better to pick your battles and survive than to fight war and be slaughtered.

Yes your entitled to know what's in your employee recorded but since your not an employee good luck getting that info.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

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