Failed Drug Test From Former Employer

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Brett Aquila's Comment
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Those are DOT driving jobs. The OP was asking about failed drug test (ie, Walmart) prior to CDL in which no database exists.

That's true. Outside of trucking there is not a "failed drug test" database of any sort that I'm aware of.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Dave D. (Armyman)'s Comment
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If it is on HireRight then any employer will know. Remember, HireRight does more than just trucking.

Dave

Dave D. (Armyman)'s Comment
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This is what I would do. I would try and find out if I could get a copy of my background check (I think you would), from HireRight, to see what's in it.

Dave

Annee's Comment
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Great Answer!

If it is on HireRight then any employer will know. Remember, HireRight does more than just trucking.

Dave

HireRight is just one of many background companies that handle drug testing. HireRight will, and are required to by law, give you a copy of all background/drug tests that they ran on YOU if you request it. You have a right to see what others are seeing about you which is why this is free to you. HireRight cannot give this out to others unless you agree and you will know someone is asking because you will have to sign off on a HireRight (or other company) form approving this. Just because HireRight ran the test means nothing. This is private information and they would be in big trouble and subject to law suits if they gave out your private info to anyone without your permission.

If you want to see what's on your background check/drug you need to find out from the company what company they used to run the tests. This is the only background company that will have this information. If you call the past employers, they can tell you what company ran your info and they might even give you a copy of the background company report issued to them. But if you failed your drug test, you already know what they know because you were contacted by the MRI doctor so he can get your permission to give your failed results back to the company that ran the test. See how that works? Privacy is a huge issue in the medical field and NO ONE is giving out your information without your knowledge and permission.

I had company accounts for many background check and drug testing companies, HireRight included. This gave me access to my employees only. I promise you no one can see your private information unless you give them permission to look.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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In our trucker's wiki we have a lot of information about the DAC report including what's on it, who runs it, and how to dispute claims.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Jason F.'s Comment
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Here's the $50,000 question: will non-DAC/DOT failed pre-hire drug test results show up when Class A CDL companies do background checks for company sponsored CDL training? How about if you started a company sponsored program, admitted to failing such a pre-hire test a few years back, got dismissed from their training, and have decided to give it another go with a different company?

Just to share what I know at this point, I called up a company that does non-CLD pre-hire testing and asked if failed results would be shared with companies other than your prospective employer. Their answer was that your results would only be communicated to those specifically designated by the company. I hope this helps someone who is struggling with how to answer the inevitable questions.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Bob K.'s Comment
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Here's my situation. I've never been a truck driver and never had a CDL. About 18 months ago I applied for a position for a large health care company that used HireRight for their background check and drug test. This was for an office position that required no driving of any kind. I tested positive for marijuana during the pre-employment screening and the job offer was rescinded. I admittedly had a problem with marijuana and haven't touched it since 3 months before that drug test but because I'm a big guy with a metabolism slower than most whales, a trace amount was detected. So here's what I'm going to find out when I contact HireRight tomorrow because I'm seriously wanting to become a truck driver like my dad was for 30+ years. I'm going to find out if HireRight would disclose that failed drug test result to a trucking company that asked about it. I'm thinking the answer is going to be yes which will of course shatter any and all hopes of becoming a truck driver, but I'll let you all know what I find out.

Annee, this is the last sentence from your last post, "I promise you no one can see your private information unless you give them permission to look." My question would be, when the trucking company hands you the background release form for past drug tests (and every last trucking company will) and you refuse to sign, what do you think the next words out of their mouth will be?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Mike Doyle's Comment
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Getting into a SAP program is the best way to get a job after getting these results. Some companies will put you through it if you fail a test, but if they have not, it would be best to seek this program yourself. Of course failing a test will deter motor vehicle carriers from hiring you, but if you are in the SAP program it will not be an automatic refusal to hire. Any carrier with a good sense of compliance will be able to find out if you have failed after doing background checks. If this is hidden from them from the start, you can understand why they may decide to let you go on your own way after finding out. After entering the SAP program, I've seen many drivers hired. Another deterrent may be that while in the SAP program that last for a few years, they will have to have you tested 1-2 times a month for awhile.

Mike Doyle safetycp.com

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

PackRat's Comment
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The best thing to do is stop fooling around with illegal substances. Several of the posts prove without a doubt the adverse effects these can cause.

's Comment
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This thread was very interesting. Im reviving it cause id like to know if passing the urine tests is on the reports. I worked in the health field and was subjected to several drug test over several years. And passed them all. Is that on my report?

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