14 Hour Work Rule

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Brett Aquila's Comment
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I have a pretty similar question about "reset time". Is that the same as the 10 hour break or something else? I've seen it mentioned a few times and don't remember seeing it in THRTP.

That's because you only did 42% of the program and didn't do the logbook section.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

Yep's Comment
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Can you take a 2 and then an 8 in the split sleeper berth? Or do you have to take the 8 first?

Thanks.

Order does not matter. I prefer 8 first just because it essentially pauses the 14hr clock. 2 will just add time, but the 14hr clock keeps ticking. Thus at 2hr+1min be ready to roll.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Yep's Comment
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Can the 14 hours be split up. Like 3 here 4 there etc. Or is it clock in or PTI a truck starts your 14 hour?

Only the 8hr sleeper can pause it. 10hr+ resets it. Anything else has no effect on it. 2hr portion of split sleeper can add time to the 14hr clock but it will keep ticking away.

The 14hr clock is the bane of my cdl. Who ever came up with it needs a boot up their back side.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Deb R.'s Comment
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It took me about 2 days to realize that I hate the 14 hour rule. I understand what it is meant to do, but in reality, I believe it can be the cause of fatigued driving. If I could just stop and take a 2 hour snooze, I would be good to go, but nooooo, then my 14 hour clock would expire, so drive on!

Rolling Thunder's Comment
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Can you take a 2 and then an 8 in the split sleeper berth? Or do you have to take the 8 first?

Thanks.

No. You must do 8hr in the sleeper to get the driving time you did not use during the 14 hr clock back. Then you can do the two hours (to equal 10) to get any time that may be left within the same 14 hr period. Neither of these stop the 14 hour clock, so, if your 14 runs out, you are done for 10 hrs. You will need to take a full 10 either off, or in the sleeper to get a full 11 and 14.

It is manageable, but unlikely otr will use it often. I had a period of a couple months where I was stuck in the cycle a few days a week because I drove regional.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I believe it can be the cause of fatigued driving. If I could just stop and take a 2 hour snooze, I would be good to go, but nooooo, then my 14 hour clock would expire, so drive on!

That is exactly the problem. No flexibility in your schedule.

Trying to pass through Chicago but you're going to hit it at 5:00 pm? Too bad, keep driving.

Feeling a bit sluggish this afternoon so you'd rather take a nap for a while and finish up this evening? Too bad, drive on.

Big storm coming on the horizon that will likely pass in an hour or two? Too bad, keep going.

Huge wreck ahead that will have the highway shut down for an hour or two? Oh well you're going to lose those hours. Yes, you can use the emergency provision but you guys didn't do the logbook section of our High Road Training Program because it wasn't on the permit exam so don't even pretend you knew that.

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Seriously though the 14 hour rule was an atrocious idea. I was floored the first time I heard about it. Luckily I always ran paper logs so I could write down whatever I wanted to and just keep driving but that rule really screwed the elog drivers.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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