C R ENGLAND

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Brian O.'s Comment
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Does anyone know if CR England is a good company to work for?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
guyjax(Guy Hodges)'s Comment
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I was a Lease Op with them for 3.5 years and my brother was an employee there though was my co-driver. They are just like any other "starter" company. They are there to get drivers on the road and get a career started. They sit a bit less than most reefer companies due to their contracts. They are the largest reefer company in the US and freight was never a problem while I was with them.

Now they do try and talk you into the lease program,which I had not problem with due to many years of experience driving before hand, and was in fact what I wanted to do but don't let that scare you. You do not have to lease and I would very strongly recommend that you do not lease at all. They have plenty of company trucks and many company drivers.

They mainly run across the northern part of the US on 70,80 and 90. Though they do go south sometimes but mainly stay in the north.

The freight they haul is mixed though a big portion is reefer freight.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Overall they're a viable option to get started with but their pay is really low compared with a lot of other refrigerated companies out there and like Guyjax mentioned they really push the leasing thing relentlessly. You don't have to lease of course, but they're going to do everything in their power to persuade you to do it. So be aware of that.

The pay would be my only big concern though. Compare their pay with other refrigerated carriers and it really doesn't stack up.

Sorry but I can't remember if you've mentioned this in another thread or not - are you going through a private truck driving school and then looking for companies to get on with or are you considering CR England's Company-Sponsored Training Program?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Company-sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

Brian O.'s Comment
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I was looking at there school i saw a ad that said 6 month contract so i was like koool school is like 25 mins south of me great 17 school nice 4 weeks with trainer at 425.00 week not so good but better then nothing then i get a call this morning to set it all up she ask me a few ? ok she asked about a speeding ticket i got last dec. no big deal 14 over ok she asked if that was all done no im making payments on oh we cant move forward till its all payed off because if u miss a payment they could suspend your lic wtf she said give her a call back when i have it payed off then i got a e-mail they had sent me this morning where it says 9 month contract not 6 so could of glad it worked out this way

Giovanni U.'s Comment
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has anybody worked for them are they a good company for somebody new to start with

I have heard a lot of rumors against CR England, they are far from true! They are a good company. Very safety conscious, they are a great place to start your career. I went to school through them, and started my otr training. their equipment is solid and in excellent condition, they work with their drivers to get them the loads they want. My trainer got a load from PA to California, (for example) So there is good money and many miles to be made here. They were not rude, they go out of their way to help you succeed. Again Safety is a big thing with them. Any questions I may be able to help with I will be happy to answer. The crap your reading on line simply isn't true. I saw many people go home because they were caught in a lie, be honest with them! In my opinion...Excellent company to start with.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Rodney B.'s Comment
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I've been doing a huge amount of research lately. I will say though I have no experience with any company, just thinking about my options at this point. I have seen a lot of bashing about many companies and you can generally get a feel for the BS part of most of it. However I will say this; By far the most negative comments about any company I have yet to see is against CRE. Most have to do with the failures of getting pushed really hard to take a lease right out of training. Many though talk about the pay and how much their attitude changes when you turn a lease down in favor of being a company driver. The only CRE drivers I encountered at truck stops were either company drivers that went through their program years ago or owner ops. I asked about the new company drivers and was just laughed at. Evidently they have a pretty bad reputation for treating you like crap in the company sponsored program, pushing you too hard and fast thru the program, and hard selling brand new people into leases. It sounds like they are completely aware that only 1 out of 25 will actually make it the 9 months but dont really care (especially if they got you on a lease and you have to turn it back in). I want to state again though: " I am not a class A CDL holder and I do not have any personnel experience with CRE." But due to the nearly 5 to 1 complaint ratio they have compared to all other companies, I will not be choosing them. I just dont see that many people being wrong or lying. Plus I never ran into a new company CRE driver at a very large and busy truck stop.....

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

Giovanni U.'s Comment
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I've been doing a huge amount of research lately. I will say though I have no experience with any company, just thinking about my options at this point. I have seen a lot of bashing about many companies and you can generally get a feel for the BS part of most of it. However I will say this; By far the most negative comments about any company I have yet to see is against CRE. Most have to do with the failures of getting pushed really hard to take a lease right out of training. Many though talk about the pay and how much their attitude changes when you turn a lease down in favor of being a company driver. The only CRE drivers I encountered at truck stops were either company drivers that went through their program years ago or owner ops. I asked about the new company drivers and was just laughed at. Evidently they have a pretty bad reputation for treating you like crap in the company sponsored program, pushing you too hard and fast thru the program, and hard selling brand new people into leases. It sounds like they are completely aware that only 1 out of 25 will actually make it the 9 months but dont really care (especially if they got you on a lease and you have to turn it back in). I want to state again though: " I am not a class A CDL holder and I do not have any personnel experience with CRE." But due to the nearly 5 to 1 complaint ratio they have compared to all other companies, I will not be choosing them. I just dont see that many people being wrong or lying. Plus I never ran into a new company CRE driver at a very large and busy truck stop.....

I have personal experience with England I was a trainee with them I would be happy to answer any questions about them. They are very safety conscious and was a good company. I had to leave for personal reasons but would go back in a heart beat.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

Ken C.'s Comment
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I have personal experience with England I was a trainee with them I would be happy to answer any questions about them. They are very safety conscious and was a good company. I had to leave for personal reasons but would go back in a heart beat.

Always good to hear some positive posts about a company once in a while...

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Ken, one of the reasons you hear so many complaints about CR England is because they'll bring in a lot of drivers that other companies won't. They're more lenient in their hiring so naturally their not just getting top-notch people. They're getting a lot of marginal people also.

And indeed CR England will push you hard in training. But most Company-Sponsored Training Programs do. And they do push the leasing thing which is also pretty common with company-sponsored programs.

Personally I wouldn't make them my top choice based on their pay and tuition structure. There are better programs in that regard. But hey, if CR England gave me a chance when nobody else would I would jump at that chance and I'd certainly make the most of it. Trucking is a performance-based industry. If you prove to them you can be a safe, productive driver they'll definitely have a place for you. Any company will.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Company-sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

Ken C.'s Comment
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Funny how people are willing to say or do anything to get a job if they are broke & hungry but once they have to work for that paycheck how fast that tune changes. Thanks for putting together such a good site and The High Road is awesome info and it really sticks in your brain

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
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