Problem With Driving School....

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Jennifer L.'s Comment
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I have completed my first week of driving school and I must say I am in heaven. The classes are interesting, my teachers are very well versed in their subjects and my classmates are for the most part an amazing group of guys.

I have one problem though.

The school is helping us with sending out applications for pre-hires but stated flat out "do not apply for any companies that we do not give you applications for and do not apply online".

This has me scratching my head. I understand that the school is owned by a trucking company so they are looking for students to go there but are they under contract with other trucking companies as well?

I have spent hours and hours of time researching, questioning and thinking about this new career and I don't think that a school that I am paying a great deal of money to should be limiting my ability to get as many pre-hire letters as I can.

Comments? Suggestions? Information?

Trouble aka: Jennifer

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Pre-hires:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Jennifer L.'s Comment
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OH!! I PASSED ALL MY WRITTEN CDL TESTS!! dancing-dog.gifsmile.gifdancing-dog.gif

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Brett Aquila's Comment
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It sounds like they're getting paid to forward applications to certain companies.

Where are you going to school? I don't think you've said anywhere, or at least I can't find it.

If you don't want to say publicly, click on my name to the left of this comment and send me a private message. I don't know where you're going to school so I can't tell ya much.

Oh, and congrats on passing the written exams!!!

Jennifer L.'s Comment
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It sounds like they're getting paid to forward applications to certain companies.

Where are you going to school? I don't think you've said anywhere, or at least I can't find it.

If you don't want to say publicly, click on my name to the left of this comment and send me a private message. I don't know where you're going to school so I can't tell ya much.

Oh, and congrats on passing the written exams!!!

Thank you Brett, I sent you a private message but after thinking about it I don't mind saying here where I am going to school, especially since we are here to help each other.

I am attending school at Roadmaster in Orlando FL. It was the third school I interviewed and the best of the three. One took a month to return my phone calls and seemed to have very little interest in recruiting new students, it is a Community College.

The next school I looked at was TDI in Sanford FL. The recruiter seemed knowledgeable but was very pushy. His office was plastered with pictures of customized trucks and truck interiors as an enticement for new recruits. To me this was deceptive since I know you are not going to get a fully customized truck from a company. He also wanted me to redo my application and lie on the new one. With that I walked out of his office and never looked back.

I understand trucking schools need to earn money, but if the over $6000 tuition I am paying is not enough to get the full support of the person who is to help me find employment then there is a break in the system.

No, I am not going to not apply with whomever I wish, but I know that the majority of students in my class are only going to fill out the applications handed to them.

Thank you again for your help and wisdom,

Jennifer

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Starcar's Comment
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Well, I'll step out here and be brutally politically incorrect and say The School Is Getting A Kickback..for every app they send out, or that gets sent to the companies they support. WOW...thats showing absolutely NO respect or support for the students, who are paying to much $$$ (IMHO) for the education. Not all trucking companies are created equal. And not all trucking companies will be a good fit for everyone. I'd have to be asking them some pointed questions...after I graduated...about this practice. AND, I may add, this practice is probably illegal in terms of receiving payment thru the state, GI Bill, or Federal funds......Interesting possibility.....

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I'm 99% certain they're a privately owned chain of schools.

But without a doubt they get paid by trucking companies to send in student applications. That's why they only want you applying to certain schools through them. You are perfectly free to apply for pre-hires on your own with any company you choose. But I would be smart about it and keep it to yourself. Don't tell the school. I don't think they would do anything about it anyhow, but why open yourself up to the possibility.

One of the big things you really want to do over the next few months of training is just go with the flow. Don't rock the boat. There are a lot of big egos and nasty people in the trucking industry that will take things personally and do whatever they can to give people grief. It's a very small-minded mentality, but that's the reality of it. So in this case, apply anywhere you like from home but don't tell anyone at the school about it. In fact, it's none of their business where you decide to work. You're paying them to train you so you can get your CDL and land a job. Where you decide to work is your business, not theirs.

I certainly wouldn't let them influence where and how I applied for work. I wasn't put on this Earth to sacrifice my career to help them earn commissions.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Pre-hires:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

BuckeyeCowboy's Comment
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I know with my school, they work with certain companies, and while we were encouraged to work with the companies they do, we were also told that we could find our own company, if we wanted. So, that sounds a bit fishy to me, but each school is different.

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