I haven't been to the L.A area, thank God! I have been in the bay. I don't know which is worse, Bay Area, or Portland. Personally, all the cities stink, and 4wheelers in them want the goodies we bring, but don't want the bother of us being in their cities. I think Cali is the worst though, it's a state full of NIMBY's (Not In My Back Yard)...They want the benefits of things but not the inconvenience of getting them. I lived there for too many years also. Glad to be out and I dread runs back there.
Portland definitely. Not only can they not drive, nobody owns a home. Everyone lives in tent cities on every street corner and highway overpass.
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I haven't been to the L.A area, thank God! I have been in the bay. I don't know which is worse, Bay Area, or Portland. Personally, all the cities stink, and 4wheelers in them want the goodies we bring, but don't want the bother of us being in their cities. I think Cali is the worst though, it's a state full of NIMBY's (Not In My Back Yard)...They want the benefits of things but not the inconvenience of getting them. I lived there for too many years also. Glad to be out and I dread runs back there.