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TreeTheTrucker's Comment
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I failed the dot urine test...am I done in this Industry? Is there anything else I can do? The school had to drop me out of the program because of it and I really want my cdl. I have my permit but who else will take me on? Any help is appreciated

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Chris the stick slinger's Comment
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Huge mistake...... That is gonna hurt for a loooooong time.

I feel bad for you BUT, you have to know they will be testing you. Good luck to you.

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TreeTheTrucker's Comment
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I stopped smoking pot months ago but then again I've been smoking weed like people smoking cigarettes. Doctor said its gonna take a year for my system to get clean. But I don't mind being tested often. I have nothing to hide and even told the school before hand...

Old School's Comment
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I failed the dot urine test...
I really want my cdl

Treebark, you didn't really tell us the reason for the failure, but I've got to tell you when I see both of those statements in the same paragraph, I have to assume that one of them is not true.

I'm not trying to be harsh or judgmental, but those two statements are conflicting. I really wanted to get into this as a second career when many of my friends were deciding to take things a little easier in their lives. I hit many a bump in the road along my way, but when you really want something you do what it takes to get it.

I don't know what else to say... You made yourself a messy bed to sleep in, but if you want that CDL you will have to go about it a different way now. You will have to scour Craig's list for a job, but even there you are going to have difficulty. You can still make it happen, but it won't be anything like what you expected - you are going to have to settle for anything you can get. You may be hauling scrap metal in a truck that screams D.O.T violations, or you may be running illegal for some unscrupulous trucking outfit. Do what you can for a few years and get some experience and maybe someone will give you a second chance at that time.

There is a harsh reality in this industry, and you just bumped up against it.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Greenhorn Trucker's Comment
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I stopped smoking pot months ago but then again I've been smoking weed like people smoking cigarettes. Doctor said its gonna take a year for my system to get clean. But I don't mind being tested often. I have nothing to hide and even told the school before hand...

Even in extreme use cases the chemical that a urine test finds should be out of the system in about 70 days, worst case 90 days but after that it won't read as high. However if you flooded your system with water it could look like you were trying to cover something up, and this will also cause you to fail the test as well since it would be seen as a tampered result. I have to agree with Old School on this one though something is not adding up with the story, not judging or anything just see half of the information makes me kind of sceptical.

TreeTheTrucker's Comment
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What I'm telling you guys is the exact truth. I've been smoking weed everyday for 30+ years(I'm 36) I stopped the second week of May, and had the test on June 29th. I drank so much water I even made myself one time. There is no half story, and tho I failed the test I guess that means I'm not serious? I highly doubt that. But i never doubt myself and I don't do any lying. Since I made the decision to go into trucking, I put the weed(the only drug besides cigarettes, I've ever used) down. Albeit maybe a little too late, but that doesn't mean I'm lying. I'm grown man and tho I made a bad choice to smoke pot maybe my worse choice was not waiting long enough to attend school.(to let my system cleanse) but I saw my shot and I went for it. I understand what you guys are saying tho, but don't mistake my short paragraph to be a half truth. I have nothing at all to hide and feel free to ask any questions you may have. I'm open..

Old School's Comment
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Treebark, by saying one statement is not true, I didn't really mean that you were lying. My point is that I don't think you really wanted this as badly as you think you did.

Here's what I'm getting at.

I think a prudent person in your situation would have gone and had an independent test of their own done to make damn sure they were clean. The ramifications of a failed drug test when trying to enter the trucking industry will "dog" you for many years to come. That's all I'm saying - I don't think you took it as seriously as was needed for a person who now tells us that:

I've been smoking weed everyday for 30+ years(I'm 36)

So, you've been smoking weed everyday since you were five or six years old? Man, I think that is bizarre.

My point was that you should have taken measures to make sure you would come up clean if you really wanted this badly. It's a little late to realize the seriousness of that unfortunate failure.

Greenhorn Trucker's Comment
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It is not about how much time you waited so that you are clean for the one drug test, but rather will you remain clean while you are operating an 80,000 lbs vehicle? Honestly I would say stay clean a full year and try again, because the road you will have to be clean or face a lot of legal problems (Note the post by The Persian Conversion). And it is not that I "don't get it" I grew up in a house full of alcoholics and friends who had battles with addictions, everyone makes mistakes and bad choices but you can overcome them if you are willing to change. Saying you quit for about a month and change after 30 years smoking pot does not say if you intend to stay off it while you are on the road, that is why they disqualified you it is a safety hazard to have intoxicated drivers on the road. Wait six months to a year (drug free) and try at a different school, if you cannot stay clean I would reconsider a trucking job.

TreeTheTrucker's Comment
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I dig what you guys are saying and if you knew my situation and circumstances, you would know that I did take it very seriously. Staying clean isn't the issue at all. I have no problem with that, I just honestly thought that staying smoke free for "1 month and some change" would cleanse my system. And yes lol I started very young (bad uncles and cousins started me early) but I did take it very serious. Most of the guys in class had permits already while I did not and I studied my ass off and moved to the top of the class because I want to be the best. I aced the range driving(off set, straight back parking etc..) but I guess it's all for nil now. But I appreciate you guys input, and while I hear you when you say it's going to be hard, I will not stop trying. Just wanted the feedback from truckers themselves to see if you know of or heard about someone in the same position. It's all love guys. I think my initial statement was just misunderstood.

Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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Also keep in mind that some companies also do a hair strand test and they all vary in how far they go back.

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