DOT Drug Testing: Urinalysis Or Hair Follicle?

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SafeKing's Comment
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I found out today that Con-Way does the follicle test.

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I think more companies are starting to go to this due to insurance reasons. Let's hope so.

less insurance cost is more money for us.... your right if your not prepared for trucking then your not prepared Hint #1 for new drivers is no drugs (shakes head) but i am a hipocrite i had a serious foot injury a few years back and about a month before i went to truck school i was tossing out my old pill bottles and saw 2 vicodin and said to myself well im not even in school yet WTH.. GULP...now i just got my cdl with all endorsments and those two vicodin keep ringing in my head I got a major refer hair testing company next week best potential job of my life...goshdammit what a fool!! 2 vicodin in maybe 3 years and no other drugs no even smokes or beer but i will prolly fail right?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Ken C.'s Comment
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If they are prescription meds and they were prescribed to you then No because you had a Medical Need at one time for them...However that being said if they were from 2 yrs ago and you just decided out of the Blue, Hey I like how these make me feel then yes you may be in for some questioning and with good reason. Trust me, from the Company Point of View, if you like how pills make you feel and you can come into contact with them what's to say you won't succumb to the temptation to use them again while on the road..? Not saying You as in You but You as in General Terms of a Person that's Used before. The liability is all on the Trucking Company and they get burnt more than we know by Drivers Actions, it's their Name on the Tractor and Trailer

Carlos C.'s Comment
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I have smoked MJ in the past 3 months. I am currently in a school to obtain my CDL , I will be purchasing a truck and work as a o/o and work Intermodal in Chicago. Will I have any problems?

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Am I missing something here or are you a new driver that plans on purchasing your own truck ASAP? I hope you've got some mentors or received some form of counsel because that COULD BE a very bad idea. I know nothing about you, so I don't know your situation or your background, but besides being a professional driver (which doesn't happen automatically when you graduate CDL school) and having a knowledge of the trucking industry, you'll need to have some business experience to be successful. I'm writing this with a genuine interest in hoping you succeed not just as an o/o, but as a professional driver. I'm not trying to be negative. Hopefully this doesn't come off as presumptuous.

I have 6 family members all O/O in chicago in intermodal for 8+ yrs experience each one. They are all older than me and never smoked MJ, I dont want to tell them that I smoked in the past because its non of there business. I have been riding along with them for the past 3 months knowing the ins and outs of the rail yards here in the midwest. That is why I will be purchasing my own truck to drive because of what I been seeing with them. I am just concerned about me having smoked in the past and it affecting me wanting to get in the trucking industry.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

Intermodal:

Transporting freight using two or more transportation modes. An example would be freight that is moved by truck from the shipper's dock to the rail yard, then placed on a train to the next rail yard, and finally returned to a truck for delivery to the receiving customer.

In trucking when you hear someone refer to an intermodal job they're normally talking about hauling shipping containers to and from the shipyards and railyards.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Brett Aquila's Comment
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That is why I will be purchasing my own truck to drive because of what I been seeing with them

Carlos, I normally try talking people out of buying or leasing a truck. But since you have family members that are doing it you have an opportunity that most don't have when considering buying a truck....access to tax returns. If you're close with any of these family members and you'd feel comfortable asking them about their tax returns, that will tell you the God's honest truth about how much money (or how little money) they're making.

We recently had a woman in here that does taxes for truck drivers and she even said that the owner operators rarely do any better than company drivers in the end. All of the risk they take by owning a business and all of the extra work of owning a truck and handling the paperwork isn't getting them anywhere at all. They could simply be company drivers and make just as much money without all of the risk and extra work involved.

People can say anything they like about the money they make. But until you see their actual tax returns, don't believe a word of it.

Owner Operator:

An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.

Carlos C.'s Comment
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If I fail my DOT urine test before obtaining my CDL will that go on my record?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Starcar's Comment
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If a CDL school has you tested as a student, and you come up dirty...it WILL be noted somewhere that all other trucking companies can see...And I think it would be on a DAC report, if nowhere else....When in doubt.....lay low and clean out..Drugs can permanently ruin your hopes of ever driving truck...

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Carlos C.'s Comment
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If a CDL school has you tested as a student, and you come up dirty...it WILL be noted somewhere that all other trucking companies can see...And I think it would be on a DAC report, if nowhere else....When in doubt.....lay low and clean out..Drugs can permanently ruin your hopes of ever driving truck...

Thanks

Ill just test myself before going to obtain my medical card... I had a feint 2 line on a home test a week ago according to the instructions its negative. Hopefully I pass the DOT This coming Monday.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

guyjax(Guy Hodges)'s Comment
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If a CDL school has you tested as a student, and you come up dirty...it WILL be noted somewhere that all other trucking companies can see...And I think it would be on a DAC report, if nowhere else....When in doubt.....lay low and clean out..Drugs can permanently ruin your hopes of ever driving truck...

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Thanks

Ill just test myself before going to obtain my medical card... I had a feint 2 line on a home test a week ago according to the instructions its negative. Hopefully I pass the DOT This coming Monday.

Not sure what you were testing yourself for but it sounds like you did not accidently take whatever your testing for.

Just be warned. More and more companies are also starting to do hair drug test and that can go back 90 days.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

J. Doe's Comment
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Any updates on the list? What about BTC out of Memphis, TN?

Kevin C.'s Comment
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Interesting thread. Here in Colorado pot is legal but it doesn't make any difference when you are dealing with the feds... just my two cents.

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