Looks Like Being Honest Just Burnt One Bridge.....

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Brett Aquila's Comment
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What are my chances of becoming a driver?

They're slim to none going through the normal channels, which entails working for one of the major carriers coming out of school. You're almost certainly going to have to find a different way to get started and get some experience. Maybe look through Craigslist at the ads for smaller companies and owner operators, logging companies, farms, and possibly companies like Waste Management. But I don't think any of the major OTR carriers are going to hire someone with a recent drug test failure.

You're just going to have to do a lot of digging to see if you can find an opportunity somewhere.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Owner Operator:

An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.

Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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The oil he is referring to is Hemp oil. Hemp seed is one of the healthiest products out there but that's an entire discussion on its own. Hemp does not contain THC and will not make a person fail a drug test. Maybe exposure from being next to someone else who was smoking or the test came back diluted because you drank too much water and they though you were trying to mask the results. That can also lead to a failed test.

Terry C.'s Comment
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First off Meper. It's very odd that the company informed you of a failed test. What is supposed to happen is one your test is sent to the lab and it tests positive for one of the five they test for...a MRO (medical review officer) should call YOU first and ask a couple questions about your recent diet, drinking habits, exposure etc. Before they contact the company. If you can't explain why you may have substance then they call the company. Read the paperwork the have you (the receipt of your test) and look at their policy there. You may have a case of mishandled policy in which case you can get that test taken off your DAC. You should have been told what you treated positive for and how much. It's your test, you have a right to know.

Next geo, when it comes to weed and trucking, honesty is going to bite you in the ass. You're not applying for a government job and even so, if it's in your PAST don't give them that info. However if you want to drive and smoke, You're in for trouble. Random tests pop up when you least want them to. I got 3 "random" tests in 4 weeks at a company that only pulls names once a month. How's that work? I've reached alot on this subject as I've seen a perfectly sober person show up positive for thc and they never use it. It was a false positive for low creatine in his urine which showed a diluted the sample and flagged positive. He fought it and won.

Good luck to you!

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Jeff L.'s Comment
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First off Meper. It's very odd that the company informed you of a failed test. What is supposed to happen is one your test is sent to the lab and it tests positive for one of the five they test for...a MRO (medical review officer) should call YOU first and ask a couple questions about your recent diet, drinking habits, exposure etc. Before they contact the company. If you can't explain why you may have substance then they call the company. Read the paperwork the have you (the receipt of your test) and look at their policy there. You may have a case of mishandled policy in which case you can get that test taken off your DAC. You should have been told what you treated positive for and how much. It's your test, you have a right to know.

Next geo, when it comes to weed and trucking, honesty is going to bite you in the ass. You're not applying for a government job and even so, if it's in your PAST don't give them that info. However if you want to drive and smoke, You're in for trouble. Random tests pop up when you least want them to. I got 3 "random" tests in 4 weeks at a company that only pulls names once a month. How's that work? I've reached alot on this subject as I've seen a perfectly sober person show up positive for thc and they never use it. It was a false positive for low creatine in his urine which showed a diluted the sample and flagged positive. He fought it and won.

Good luck to you!

Heard that is one of the biggest reasons people are sent home from orientation besides HBP. They do not expect the hair test. I used to smoke that crap at one time just like 95% of the guys trying to become truck drivers now days. You cant smoke and do this job without getting caught, plus where are they going to find it while out on the road? Worth go through weigh stations. If someone has smoked it even once in the last seven months it will most likely show up with a hair test. They can test it back farther than that. I personally like my brain cells but would not buy that Zeta-Sinaloa crap even if I wanted to. They are terrorist, human traffickers, sex slaves, etc. They are as bad if not as worse than ISIS. Grow it if you want to smoke it is my motto. Get high on clarity. Clarity is not a nick name for a illegal substance.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Meper's Comment
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Brett, Robert B., Terry C.,

First off, thank you all for your honest feedback! I needed it!.

Secondly, Robert B., you made my day - I drink more water than a fish and that is what I did during the bus ride to orientation and while in orientation. (Did not know water could/would result in a positive result). Whew! Dude you just don't know how that makes me feel - it has taken a load off of me. For the life of me I could not understand how I could test positive without smoking. I was seriously thinking someone somewhere had put marijuana in something I ate and I was seriously contemplating beating the crap out of them if that turned out to be the case (I think everyone has heard about the brownies, etc - its for that reason I don't eat brownies unless the wife and/or daughters are baking them ( I know they don't smoke weed)- seriously). At least now I have something to work with to rectify this situation.

Terry C. - I was never contacted by someone from the staff who did the physical and testing, it was all done in-house. I was pulled out of class, instructed to go to HR and it was an HR rep who informed me of the results. I was never shown any test results and we were never given any copies of anything. What the HR rep did do was get on the phone and called (supposedly) someone from the lab that conducted the test. The person on the phone told me I could retest for $180.00. When I informed her I did not have the money for a retest, the HR rep asked for the phone back and I was then instructed to follow a gentleman (who was standing behind her during the phone call) and he then took me to a little office and explained my options to me which was to enroll in a SAS program for twelve months had me sign the form and then had security take me to gather my things. The security guy called a taxi to take me to the bus station. I am glad I did have enough sense to hold back enough money for my bus ticket home ( my recruiter had informed me that they would not pay my way back home if I did make it through training). Another thing, the 'lab' person implied that my sample was suspect on the day of the test (that Monday) because the nurse who collected my sample had me initial the cup my urine was in - I just assumed it was to ensure there would be no mix ups. So if that was the case, why did they issue me a medical card good for two years (it expires November of this year and I still have it - they didn't ask for it back), allow me to go to the DMV and take the permit test (which I passed on the first try), allow me to continue training all the way up to and through the straight line backing portion ( which was for three hours after class ended and the class ended at 6:00 pm), and then wait until that Friday morning to inform me of this? That to me just doesn't make any sense - if my sample was suspect from day one, it seems to me that I would have never been issued a medical card good for 2 years.

Now, when I get this mess remove from my DAC report would it also remove the name of the company who filed it? If not, how will be able to explain to potential employers why I was only at that company for one week?

I did not enroll into the SAS program because, one - I do not and did not smoke and two - I could not afford the cost of the program. I do not and will not admit to something I am not guilty of. If I am guilty of something I will own up to it and accept the consequences. If I am not guilty you will have to kill me to accept guilt.

What I am going to do now is print out you all's responses along with my DAC report and contact my caseworker and see what steps I need to take to get this mess cleared up. You guys just don't know how much better I feel now.

Again, I thank you all. I wish I would have found this site because all of this, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Be safe out there.

Meper

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Meper's Comment
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..."I wish I would have found this site because all of this" should have been "I wish I would have found this site before all of this"

Meper

Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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..."I wish I would have found this site because all of this" should have been "I wish I would have found this site before all of this"

Meper

You'll be ok, just might have to fight a bit. Too much water shows up as diluted and they think you're trying to cover up a dirty drop. Get it sorted out and see if they will re test you. Have coffee or a soda this time lol. I drink a lot of water too but still enjoy my diet coke.

Meper's Comment
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Thanks Robert! I'll pass on the coffee (gives me liquid bowels, LOL) and diet coke. I'll just make sure to not drink any water before the test. Be safe and good luck in school.

Meper

Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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You too brother, you to.

Maggie M.'s Comment
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does PTL do both urine and hair follicle drug screenings

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