Looks Like Being Honest Just Burnt One Bridge.....

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Geo W.'s Comment
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Well I decided to apply with Central and be honest about the weed smoking in the past and said I 100% sire there would be no problem at all passing a urine.. Well I did all the paper work, the recruiter just called and said everything looks great, but there is a problem. I need to not have smoked with-in the past 5 years...... embarrassed.gif Its really not looking good for my new career now.. Since CR does hair, im out there. Looks like the last chance I have is PAM, i just filled that out thru driversalutions and have to call the recruiter @ 9am tomorrow. If that fails then I guess my next post will be July 2018.. Now since we know PAM does a UA test should I not say anything?? Man I dont know what to do..... wtf-2.gif

Joe B.'s Comment
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Don't give up so easy!! There are a lot more than 3 places to apply for and you do not need to tell anyone if you smoked in the past. 90 days and its out of your system regardless what you hear about 5 years in your hair and the tests they use.

#1 Quit for good and never again if you want a career in truck driving

#2 Apply to companies as you like. There are 100's but at least 10 that hire and train from the start.

#3 cut your hair. ALL of your hair to 1/2 inch to start with. Then cut it again to no more than 1.5 inches everywhere at 90 days. Hair grows at .5 inch a month so 90 days = 1.5 inches etc.

#4 Just make sure your start date is 90 days from when you last smoked which is already in your past.

Old School's Comment
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Geo, almost all actions have consequences in some form or fashion, I'm sorry you're hitting this snag. Believe me when I say that, because I hit a lot of rejections for one reason or another when I first started pursuing this career.

Look, you don't have to tell them stuff that they don't ask about. If you can pass the drug test then you're good. But you will have to lay down the weed for good, because you will be randomly tested sometimes by your company, and maybe even by the D.O.T. Drugs, drinking, and driving are lethal combinations that should never be mixed up together.

There's a lot of companies out there needing drivers, you just keep at it and I'm sure you can get on with a training program somewhere. If you keep hitting snags you just get back on here and we will help you any way we can.

Geo W.'s Comment
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Geo, almost all actions have consequences in some form or fashion, I'm sorry you're hitting this snag. Believe me when I say that, because I hit a lot of rejections for one reason or another when I first started pursuing this career.

Look, you don't have to tell them stuff that they don't ask about. If you can pass the drug test then you're good. But you will have to lay down the weed for good, because you will be randomly tested sometimes by your company, and maybe even by the D.O.T. Drugs, drinking, and driving are lethal combinations that should never be mixed up together.

There's a lot of companies out there needing drivers, you just keep at it and I'm sure you can get on with a training program somewhere. If you keep hitting snags you just get back on here and we will help you any way we can.

Trust and believe, I will never smoke that crap any more, have no want or need. As for drinking thats never been a issue.. The only reason i said anything, is because on the 2nd stage of their paper work asked the last time you used street drugs, and I was honest by saying April, thats when she called me and said about it needing to be 5 years.. So when Im asked again do i just say never? im afraid im going to run out of company sponsored schools by telling the truth. the list is very small that only do a urine test. I can pass that its the hair one im worried about. Im being told so many different time frames about the length of time the results will show up and i dont want to risk it and fail the test and then that is on my record and im completely screwed.

Old School's Comment
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Geo, I never saw a question like that on any application that I filled out, and I did quite a few. I wasn't applying for training though, and that may be a little different. What I'm getting at is: start looking at some other training program applications and try filling out the ones that don't ask such a specific question.

Geo W.'s Comment
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Geo, I never saw a question like that on any application that I filled out, and I did quite a few. I wasn't applying for training though, and that may be a little different. What I'm getting at is: start looking at some other training program applications and try filling out the ones that don't ask such a specific question.

Here is a clip of the paper work;

Have you ever tested positive for drugs / alcohol? Yes No IF yes, dates? Have you ever refused a drug / alcohol test? Yes No IF yes, when? CRS is a drug and alcohol free environment. When was the last time you used an illegal drug? DOT requires a drug screen. You are required to pass. If you happen to fail the testing you will be sent home at your own expense. Do you understand? YES NO....

And That is what im going to do OldSchool, Thanks for the positive words!

Drive safe!

Geo

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Rainmaker's Comment
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Geo, almost all actions have consequences in some form or fashion, I'm sorry you're hitting this snag. Believe me when I say that, because I hit a lot of rejections for one reason or another when I first started pursuing this career.

Look, you don't have to tell them stuff that they don't ask about. If you can pass the drug test then you're good. But you will have to lay down the weed for good, because you will be randomly tested sometimes by your company, and maybe even by the D.O.T. Drugs, drinking, and driving are lethal combinations that should never be mixed up together.

There's a lot of companies out there needing drivers, you just keep at it and I'm sure you can get on with a training program somewhere. If you keep hitting snags you just get back on here and we will help you any way we can.

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Trust and believe, I will never smoke that crap any more, have no want or need. As for drinking thats never been a issue.. The only reason i said anything, is because on the 2nd stage of their paper work asked the last time you used street drugs, and I was honest by saying April, thats when she called me and said about it needing to be 5 years.. So when Im asked again do i just say never? im afraid im going to run out of company sponsored schools by telling the truth. the list is very small that only do a urine test. I can pass that its the hair one im worried about. Im being told so many different time frames about the length of time the results will show up and i dont want to risk it and fail the test and then that is on my record and im completely screwed.

Industry standard for a hair follicle test is 90 days of history which requires 1.5 inches of hair which is taken from the crown of your head.

Gunner's Comment
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It's kind of a catch 22 with some of these companies who ask if you've EVER smoked but then they turn around and say must be 5 years or more. Realistically, there are more pot smokers than cigarette smokers, at least in FL, so its actually hard to believe when someone says they have never smoked. I actually really dont smoke but have tried it a few times over my lifetime. When i applied to swift a while back i put on my app that i took a hit in july 2009 at a 4th of july party. They didnt seem to have an issue with it. I was invited to their millington school but decided to hold off a bit. Anyway, i think that 5 year thing with central is a bit overboard on their part. Ton of other companies out there that wont care past 90 days.

Jeff L.'s Comment
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Do not tell them anymore than you need to. That crap they tell you about being completely honest is more towards driving history and criminal record. Just give them the minimum when filling out work history. Most of them are not even looking at your app as a whole, they are just going down them like a check list, when they see two are three things they stop and say " sorry, we would need you two drive for another company for a year before considering you". I have blown two good companies by being to honest and writing too much. I am even contacting http://www.hireright.com/applicants/view/request-copy-background-report-dac-report to see what and if they have even were contacted by the companies that denied me. These companies are like some parents, they want you to lie for them but not to them. They should have a class in school to train you how to talk to recruiters and what to write on an application. PAM is not the worse way to get in and they will get you the training you need the first year. Look at https://www.celadontrucking.com/cms400min/celadon2013/homepage.aspx and http://www.ptl-inc.com/ among a few other companies that have recruiters who take time with applications. You could also look at USA.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Meper's Comment
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If you fail a drug screen test - would you still be issued an Medical Card? Not sure how it happened, but I failed a 'pre-employment' drug screen back in 2013 and I was informed of the failure three days after receiving my card (it was good for 2 years - actually still valid). The company told me I had to attend a SAS class for 12 months at my expense (unable to do due to being unemployed - no income) and they would give me a review. They have also placed this on my DAC report. Doing some research on 'false positives' via the National Institute of Health (NIH) recently found out that there is a cooking oil that is made from cannibis. (Never knew that existed). It is suppose to leave food cooked in it very greasy and I had a greasy breakfast at a Greyhound terminal in Nashville (might have just been bad cooking on their part - don't know). But I do not smoke weed. Didn't then and don't now. I am currently trying to get into trucking school with state funding and 'pre-hires' are one of the things I need to obtain. Have been turned down by a few companies already. What are my chances of becoming a driver?

Mper

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Pre-hires:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

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