How "concrete" Is A Pre-hire?

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Pianoman's Comment
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I I elect to go somewhere with their own training, like swift or ustruck, is that different from a pre-hire? I basically just want to know I'll have a job when I'm done with training. nothing in my background I'm not disclosing, just the worries of being sole income for a family of 7. keeping my ducks in a row, so to speak.

I can't really answer any questions about pre-hires , but I know that company-sponsored training is not a job guarantee, per se (at least, not at Swift). I went to company-sponsored cdl training for Swift, and the papers I signed clearly said, verbatim, "Nothing within this agreement shall be construed as an offer or guarantee of employment by Swift." That being said, listen to G-Town! Lol. There is no reason a company would invest time and money in you just to kick you to the curb the first chance they get. If you go through company-sponsored training, they WANT you to work out for them; otherwise, they've just wasted thousands of dollars to pay your way through cdl school--money they aren't going to get back for a while.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Pre-hires:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Company-sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

Old School's Comment
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I agree with G-Town completely!

This whole business is performance based from start to finish. You will be the one that guarantees yourself a job.

That being said, if you go the Company-Sponsored Training route and successfully complete their training program, then you are pretty much guaranteed a job.

Pre-hires should not be construed as a guarantee of employment, but rather that they have checked the information they requested from you and so far you are looking like a likely candidate. If you go there and fail a drug test, or they find you have left something out concerning your driving record or criminal background then you are gone with little concern on their part.

I actually got sent home from three different orientations that I had pre-hires for, twice for medical reasons during the physical, and once due to the recruiter making a mistake concerning how long a time it had been from when I graduated truck driving school. All three times the companies paid for my return trip home. Those of you who complain about taking a 15-20 hour bus ride to orientation will be interested in knowing that I logged a little over 300 hours on the greyhound before someone gave me my first shot to prove myself!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Pre-hires:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Company-sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

tripletdad's Comment
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That's what I'm worried about. I don't have the luxury of being able to spend that kind of time on a greyhound. I habe never half-assed anything, so if I go to training, it's because I intend to work for said company. if I lie or omit, thats obviously on me. if I get a recruiter who doesn't double check something or just wants to get credit for sending another student throgh, that's where I'd have concerns.

Old School's Comment
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Don't waste your time worrying about it just get in there and apply yourself - you will be fine!

My situation with the recruiter was a highly unlikely scenario for most people to go through, and those recruiters don't get paid for just getting you to show up. You will have to get hired for them to reap any benefits - so more than likely they will check you out very thoroughly. I've got the feeling you've been lurking some of those moan and groan trucking forums where people share their nightmare stories of trucking job woes. If I'm right you will do yourself a big favor by avoiding those places completely. The information you get from them is very questionable at best. I get the feeling that you are a hardworking responsible individual, and I promise you those folks who are constantly singing those sob stories about getting sent home from trucking companies are not anywhere near your caliber of person or employee.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
TailGunner (Ken M)'s Comment
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I was at an orientation where a prospective driver was asked to leave because they didn't like his attitude, he bi#c#d too much, and could tell he was gonna be trouble, so they ejected him.

tripletdad's Comment
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Don't waste your time worrying about it just get in there and apply yourself - you will be fine!

My situation with the recruiter was a highly unlikely scenario for most people to go through, and those recruiters don't get paid for just getting you to show up. You will have to get hired for them to reap any benefits - so more than likely they will check you out very thoroughly. I've got the feeling you've been lurking some of those moan and groan trucking forums where people share their nightmare stories of trucking job woes. If I'm right you will do yourself a big favor by avoiding those places completely. The information you get from them is very questionable at best. I get the feeling that you are a hardworking responsible individual, and I promise you those folks who are constantly singing those sob stories about getting sent home from trucking companies are not anywhere near your caliber of person or employee.

you're absolutely right. there are a lot of differences between the other trucking forums and this one. I'll just go into it with a positive attitude and just figure I'll be fine.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Perkdaddy's Comment
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I just went through the prehire and orientation with Averitt. Even though I have a 2 yr medical card here in KY, I did not pass the physical with their examiner, so I did not get the job. If you are relatively healthy, and do everything the companies ask, I think you should be golden. Good luck.

Prehire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

G-Town's Comment
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Don't waste your time worrying about it just get in there and apply yourself - you will be fine!

My situation with the recruiter was a highly unlikely scenario for most people to go through, and those recruiters don't get paid for just getting you to show up. You will have to get hired for them to reap any benefits - so more than likely they will check you out very thoroughly. I've got the feeling you've been lurking some of those moan and groan trucking forums where people share their nightmare stories of trucking job woes. If I'm right you will do yourself a big favor by avoiding those places completely. The information you get from them is very questionable at best. I get the feeling that you are a hardworking responsible individual, and I promise you those folks who are constantly singing those sob stories about getting sent home from trucking companies are not anywhere near your caliber of person or employee.

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you're absolutely right. there are a lot of differences between the other trucking forums and this one. I'll just go into it with a positive attitude and just figure I'll be fine.

Glad you noticed that. Good luck, let us know how else we can assist, and above all safe travels. good-luck.gif

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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