Out Of State Ticket Doesn't Appear On My Driving Record.... Do I Report It On My Application?

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Chris B.'s Comment
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I'm Pennsylvania driver and got a speeding ticket in Virginia last summer. I have been reporting it on my applications up to now. I downloaded my driving record from Pennsylvania and there is no report of the violation... looks squeaky clean! Should I stop disclosing the ticket on future applications?

Rick S.'s Comment
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Always disclose.

If it turns up later - better to not appear as though you are trying to CONCEAL it.

Most states have "reciprocity" when it comes to reporting and assessing points from out of state citations.

Rick

Rob S.'s Comment
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If it is not on your driving record why would you report it? The only driving record they will see is the one from PA, which as you said is clean, so no need to worry, unless you are going for sainthood.

Phil C.'s Comment
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When you get a MVD report it only shows tickets in the state you get the report in. So a ticket in Virginia will not show up in a Pennsylvania MVD report. You ALWAYS disclose because if you don't, they will find out later and will kick you from their training program, but keeping your money because you lied.

Phil

Chris B.'s Comment
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PA and VA do have reciprocity so I was surprised that it didn't show up. In any case, my driving record for the past 10 years and beyond is spotless so -hopefully- one violation won't send my application into the trash bin. thanks to all for the advice.

Rob S.'s Comment
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Sorry, not trying to be a smart ass or start an argument here, but you state that;

"You ALWAYS disclose because if you don't, they will find out later"

So my question is, how will they find out later? By running a driver's license check thru every state? This is very time consuming and costly. I am not a lawyer by any means, but if it is not on his home state license, then it is a small offence that probably does not fall under the reciprocation laws. He should call the offending state's transportation bureau and enquire. I know that if I get a ticket in the US, it will not show whatsoever on my Ontario driver's license.

Phil C.'s Comment
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Sorry, not trying to be a smart ass or start an argument here, but you state that;

"You ALWAYS disclose because if you don't, they will find out later"

So my question is, how will they find out later? By running a driver's license check thru every state? This is very time consuming and costly. I am not a lawyer by any means, but if it is not on his home state license, then it is a small offence that probably does not fall under the reciprocation laws. He should call the offending state's transportation bureau and enquire. I know that if I get a ticket in the US, it will not show whatsoever on my Ontario driver's license.

I'm no expert but you must provide a minimum 10 years of verifiable employment history, that will pretty easily show them what states to check for your mvr. As far as your tickets not showing up in Ontario that has nothing to do with what happens in the U.S.? I know once you get a CDL its a federal license and then things like CSA , PSP and DAC come into play. But basically if you choose to lie about your past to a potential employer, don't be surprised if that lie is exposed and you suffer somehow because of it. Lying because you think you can get away with it may not be worth it in the long run, especially in trucking. Trucking companies typically will find out, I don't know how but they have their ways. Especially for the OP, its simply not worth the risk to try and lie about one speeding ticket. Maybe Brett and others can chime in here about why its bad to lie about your driving past.

Phil

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  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
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CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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The key is to answer any questions they ask on the application honestly and accurately. If they ask you to list all tickets you were issued in the State of Pennsylvania then you only list the ones you were issued in Pennsylvania. If they ask you to list all of the tickets you were issued in the past three years, you list all of them.

That principle applies to all of the questions on an application. Answer the question honestly and accurately but do not disclose anything they do not ask you about specifically.

In this case you can be certain that they will ask you to list all of the tickets you were issued over the last so many years. That means all of them, regardless of where they were issued or what vehicle you were driving.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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The general rule: Give them exactly the information they're asking for. Nothing more, nothing less.

If you hide something from them on the hope they won't find out, you'll be sorry, because they'll almost certainly find out. That's an important part of what they do during the hiring process.

Scott L. aka Lawdog's Comment
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Chris B. - Have some integrity, keywords on applications are "any", "all" and specified timeframe. Just be thorough and honest, could easily come back to haunt you.

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