We'd Like Some Suggestions For Our Job Listings

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Brett Aquila's Comment
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We're expanding our jobs section and I wanted to get some suggestions from you guys.

I want to know how you would like the job hunting process to go. In other words, what can we do to make it easier for you to research companies and apply for jobs?

Now there are any number of approaches you can take for finding a job in this industry. You can:

  • Look through a long list of job postings for your area and apply for the ones you like individually
  • Apply to all available jobs in your area and see who gives you an offer
  • Do some comparison research yourself to find a handful of companies that you like and apply to those only
  • Let a job placement service help you find companies that fit your criteria

Not only can we do all of those things but we can partner with any number of companies that provide those services to greatly expand our reach. We have the resources to set up any system imaginable.

What I want to know is how you would like the process to go. It can be any combination of the four things I listed above or anything else you can add to it. Describe what you feel would be the perfect process for finding a job. There are no wrong answers here, only personal preferences and that's exactly what I'm looking for. I'm looking for as many ideas as I can get so we can set up this new system the right way.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Joe W. ( aka hharleywood)'s Comment
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One application to apply to as many companies that you want, which I think you already do. Work with recruiters that represent multiple companies so we can cover many companies with one phone call.

Rob S.'s Comment
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Maybe a section for new drivers vs. experienced ones.

Also, any chance of applying to Canadian companies? Or US companies that have Canadian operations?

Errol V.'s Comment
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Brett, TT already does the first two. Maybe add a placement service.

I used the shotgun style myself, but ended up with an independent recruiter. I liked that because, like a home buyer's real estate agent, he was working for me.

Brian M.'s Comment
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Brett something that I think would be beneficial would be a driver review/questionnaire for students that just completed schools private or company. Perhaps structure it so the most common questions asked as part of the review.Questions that are relevant to new people coming to TT So they have an opportunity to see how others feel about the school. If you were to eliminate 10% of the bottom surveys and 5% of the top surveys I believe you would wind up with some honest reviews of private/public and company schools. It will allow potential students see honest reviews from students that have already been to any particular school. I am sure you can weed out students that are being disingenuous.

∆_Danielsahn_∆'s Comment
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Brett something that I think would be beneficial would be a driver review/questionnaire for students that just completed schools private or company. Perhaps structure it so the most common questions asked as part of the review.Questions that are relevant to new people coming to TT So they have an opportunity to see how others feel about the school. If you were to eliminate 10% of the bottom surveys and 5% of the top surveys I believe you would wind up with some honest reviews of private/public and company schools. It will allow potential students see honest reviews from students that have already been to any particular school. I am sure you can weed out students that are being disingenuous.

I second that. Plus, with the fantastic job you did with the new company profiles, you can develop the questionnaire to fit the parameters to cross reference them.

If you were to "team up" with another outside source, I would suggest indeed. They tend to have more balanced company reviews, too. (Even Western Express had quite a few decent reviews on that site!)

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I appreciate the replies and I'd like to get a few more also today.

As far as any type of user-submitted reviews are concerned it just isn't feasible. There is big money at stake when it comes to school or company reviews so you simply can't trust reviews from unknown sources. You won't know if they're coming from a genuinely helpful source, if they're coming from a screw up looking to make someone else look bad, or the competition trying to make each other look bad. And like anyone who is good at being manipulative, you won't be able to recognize the savvy ones, only the idiots. So the false reviews done by people who really know what they're doing are the most dangerous and difficult to detect because they sound so legit.

And in fact the reviews at places like Amazon and eBay are almost completely useless at this point because so many companies have manipulated them for years now. You can go out there and buy yourself as many Facebook Likes, Amazon reviews, eBay reviews, Twitter followers, or app downloads and reviews as you like. There are companies all over the country that have small armies of work from home people that go out there manipulating downloads, ratings, and reviews every day. It's big money.

I've always felt the best opinions you can get about a school or a company come from either a current student or current drivers while they're standing right in front of you. Go for a visit to any schools you're considering and speak with some of their current students face to face. If it's a company you want information on then speak with some of their current drivers at a truck stop face to face. That's going to give you the best opportunity to get an honest review. I don't know what it is that causes it, but for some reason the very worst comes out in people when they can speak from a place of anonymity. When you're looking someone in the eye the overwhelming majority of people aren't going to go into elaborate details telling lies about someone. They're far more likely to simply tell it like it is.

Trust me, if I knew of a way to present fair and honest user opinions about schools and companies we would have been doing it for years now. We have people share their training experiences in our CDL Training Diaries section of the forum and those are quite helpful. But when it comes to gathering opinions from the peanut gallery it's just a game of roulette. You really have no idea if the various sources of the information can be trusted or not so unfortunately you'd be making decisions based upon little less than wishful thinking.

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HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Brett Aquila's Comment
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One concern I have about the job application system involves helping people find opportunities they might not otherwise know about.

For starters, there are a lot of independent recruiters and lesser known companies out there that may have fantastic opportunities available but traditionally it's been difficult for them to get their message across to drivers. The major job boards are flooded by larger companies using their larger budgets so most of the time you won't even see the smaller job postings unless you dig through many pages of listings.

Not only that, but the way these job boards normally work is to have you apply only to the companies you want to apply to. Well if you had known about the other opportunities you certainly would have applied, right? Naturally. But since you didn't specifically apply to those other companies then those companies never knew about you and you never knew about them. You might as well have been on two separate planets even though you may have been a perfect match.

So what I'd like to do is add a new dimension to the process. The traditional option will still work the same - you can apply only to specific companies if you would like. But I'd also like to let you guys fill out one application and then allow companies and recruiters to contact you with any current or future opportunities that may come up. Your application will remain available in our system so that if a few weeks or a few months from now a great new opportunity opens up a company or recruiter can contact you to let you know about it.

The two really nice things about this system are:

1) You will no longer have to seek out every last job opportunity yourself. Companies and recruiters will be able to find you and present their opportunities to you. In this industry with such a massive number of companies out there that's a much better system for the driver.

2) You won't miss out on opportunities because they came along a few weeks or a few months after you filled out the application. Your dream job might not be available right now so you take the next best thing, right? But suddenly two months later your dream job opens up. In a traditional job system your application has 'expired' in their system so you'll never know this opportunity came up. In our system, not only can the company find you and contact you about their opportunity, but we can also contact you whenever new opportunities come up.

So what do you guys think about having an application that remains active in our system so you can be contacted with future opportunities? I know not everyone will like this idea so the traditional way of applying for jobs will still be available. But in my opinion it makes sense that a driver would want to know about every opportunity that's out there so they don't miss out on the right job when it becomes available.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Brian M.'s Comment
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Sorry not a fan. Once employed I don't want every Tom **** and Harry calling me texting me or emailing me. I already have a junk file a mile long. I don't want to add to it. When i decide to change I'm sure I would be able to contact my dream company.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Sorry not a fan. Once employed I don't want every Tom **** and Harry calling me texting me or emailing me. I already have a junk file a mile long. I don't want to add to it. When i decide to change I'm sure I would be able to contact my dream company.

That's cool. I know there will be people that don't want to be contacted so the option to apply to individual companies will still remain.

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