How Much Is It On You To Get Logging Hours Right?

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Miqote's Comment
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I just started school and one of the first major topics they covered was logging your hours. Talking about how much you can work etc. But he made it very big deal you get fined all the time if your off by just a bit on this stuff. So when you actually are on a real job are you still very much responsible for this or is it more steamlined and your fleet managers are something kind of can figure it out for you? Or maybe a program or something keeps up with it for you....

Also, holy this school is 3 weeks long and they move a little too fast for me and only 30mins break jeeeez... >.>

Fleet Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Miqote's Comment
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Starting to think a lot of this stuff would make much more sense if I could actually do the job rather than stuff in a classroom

Miqote's Comment
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Oh, and this "Monthly Summary Sheet" thing with the 3 columns is hugely confusing and completely went over my head. Didn't help I got soo little sleep for first day of class tho....

Sheet with the "A" "B" "C" and you figure some numbers or something.

Old School's Comment
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Miqote, did you use our High Road Training Program before you went to school? The section in there on logs is excellent. I think I went through that section about four times, and I swear that was like a revelation to me on how to succeed at this stuff.

Understanding the rules and how they affect your ability to make the most money at this is critical to your success at this career. It comes easier as you get some experience actually working with your logs, but having a basic understanding of how it all works is important as you get started.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Brett Aquila's Comment
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Miqote, our High Road Training Program has a section we built for learning the logbook rules. Those laws can be somewhat confusing so our program will walk you through it. Have a look at it.

It will certainly make more sense to you once you're applying it to real life scenarios. In fact, one of the best ways to learn the rules better is to practice them by creating fictitious trips and logging them as you go.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
James K.'s Comment
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I just started school and one of the first major topics they covered was logging your hours. Talking about how much you can work etc. But he made it very big deal you get fined all the time if your off by just a bit on this stuff. So when you actually are on a real job are you still very much responsible for this or is it more steamlined and your fleet managers are something kind of can figure it out for you? Or maybe a program or something keeps up with it for you....

Also, holy this school is 3 weeks long and they move a little too fast for me and only 30mins break jeeeez... >.>

Yeah this is a big deal and yes you are responsible for your logbooks. Qualcomm made it easy to look at how much drive time was remaining and that if you forgot to log certain actions would do so automatically for you such as if you turned off the truck and got out it would automatically put you on duty not driving and if you go above 5 mph it would put you driving.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.

Fleet Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Errol V.'s Comment
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Miqote, I used to teach math up to Algebra in school. While I was studying the CDL stuff, the HOS rules were almost crazy. But, you know, when I started actually "living" with the rules it turned out not so bad.

And BTW, on the road, after your 30 minute break you'll want to get going again. (You could take longer, but driving/ road miles is how you get paid.)

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
DumDriver's Comment
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To answer your question- it's 100% on the driver to log ( and keep track of) his hours. You might say log and keep track are the same. They are…sort of.

You could find yourself working locally with the 100 air mike radius exemption. In that case you don't have to fill out a daily log (unless you work 12 or more hours that day) but you still have to keep track of your hours so you don't go over 60 hours in 7 days.

Take plenty of time to learn all the HOS rules. It's one of the most important parts of this career. As important as shifting and backing

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Charlie Mac's Comment
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Hey Driver! Didn't know you were on TT dancing.gif

Welcome aboard!

DumDriver's Comment
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Yeah, I'm on vacation this week and I was just playing around on the Internet in this crappy weather. I had forgotten about this board

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