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Steve J.'s Comment
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I failed my roadskills test 3 times my problem backing my pretrip great my actually on the road driving great i just cant pass the backing the school dropped me can I go to another school I am almost there just need more practice on offset and 90 degree the school was AIT in henderson colorado

any advice I would greatly appreciate

Steve

Old School's Comment
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Steve, it sounds like you have a pretty good foundation built from your time at the school, you just need some more practice time at backing. I'm a little surprised you say the school dropped you. That is a fairly unusual scenario because these schools are always trying to keep their graduation percentage rate high because that number helps them get some state funding that helps pay for tuition for displaced workers.

Have you ever considered Company-Sponsored Training Programs? They will promise you a job on completion of their program, and most of them will even pay you during the training period. Some of them pay as much as 700 bucks a week to a trainee in their program. I recommend you look into that, but first I would try to have a level headed discussion with the school and see if there is any way you can get some additional practice at backing. Maybe you could even offer to pay them for some one on one time with an instructor just to get that part down if that is all you are needing.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Company-sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

Steve J.'s Comment
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It was a company sponsered school werner and no they wont take me back I tried

Old School's Comment
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Steve, that makes more sense now. I thought you were at a private school. Yeah those company sponsored schools expect you to catch on fast. If you don't they move on to the next candidates.

There are others out there - if you still want to do this start applying again. You can go to another school.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
miracleofmagick's Comment
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Werner owns ait and Roadmaster. Both operate as private schools, not company sponsored. If ait operates the same way Roadmaster does, you are given a certain number of tries on each test. If I remember correctly, Roadmaster gave you 4 tries on each one. If you couldn't pass it in the 4 tries you were done. At that point you could a) try for your class B b) wait a specified amount of time (not sure how long) and re-enroll or c) give up.

Now, like I said that is how Roadmaster does it, not sure if ait does it the same way. I imagine they would, but there could be differences.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Terminal Rat ( aka...J's Comment
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Here in California you only get three tries at the actual DMV test and you have to wait 30 days in order to get three more. After 6 tries it's a 90 day wait. Then after 9 tries you have to wait a year.

I'm assuming you haven't actually done the DMV testing only the schools. I guess I'd start calling private schools and see what your options are. At the very least they might let you sign up and either focus on backing or go through their refresher course.

Best wishes and good luck!

JJ

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Mr. T's Comment
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Swift gave us 3 strikes then you are out. You had 3 strikes in total for Pretrip, Backing, & the Road Test. Not 3 tries each just 3 total. So if you fail pretrip once, the fail backing twice...your done. They had it set up so easy for us that if you learned the way they taught you & applied it all then you should go into your Road Test with all 3 strikes. Just go to another school man. & I would definitely recommend Swift! I had an awesome time here & their training was top notch! Here in Salt Lake City, Utah

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

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