Probably Failed DOT Drug Screen In Sept. 2015
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You're most welcome, Ro C. Wish I had more for you. Stick around, and perhaps start a thread of YOUR own. . . for a better following, and more replies. I sure wish you the best; I'm just one of the MANY peeps on this site, and you MAY get other and better replies. Location might help, also. Yours, not mine, haha! (You should add that, for more info!)
Have you ventured the 'CraigsList' way? Not that we recommend that, because small/shady companies can destroy your DAC as you are repairing it, in the same breath. Just wondering out loud.
Also, even though driving something like a Dump Truck; CLASS B won't 'count' to your overall CDL A experience.. it could help YOU in the long run, understanding the ins and outs of some of the places the big rigs go, and get a 'look see,' for the moment. It doesn't count, but sure wouldn't hurt. You COULD get in with your CDL, should you choose to stay in the 'industry' until April ~!
My 2 cents turned into 200 . . . LoL~!
Keep us in the loop; we are here to help, good sir!
Again, wish you well.
~ Anne ~
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
DAC:
Drive-A-Check Report
A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).
It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.
Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.
OWI:
Operating While Intoxicated
OOS:
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
Thanks, a lot Anne for your help it definitely was helpful and sparked some ideas.
You're most welcome, Ro C. Wish I had more for you. Stick around, and perhaps start a thread of YOUR own. . . for a better following, and more replies. I sure wish you the best; I'm just one of the MANY peeps on this site, and you MAY get other and better replies. Location might help, also. Yours, not mine, haha! (You should add that, for more info!)
Have you ventured the 'CraigsList' way? Not that we recommend that, because small/shady companies can destroy your DAC as you are repairing it, in the same breath. Just wondering out loud.
Also, even though driving something like a Dump Truck; CLASS B won't 'count' to your overall CDL A experience.. it could help YOU in the long run, understanding the ins and outs of some of the places the big rigs go, and get a 'look see,' for the moment. It doesn't count, but sure wouldn't hurt. You COULD get in with your CDL, should you choose to stay in the 'industry' until April ~!
My 2 cents turned into 200 . . . LoL~!
Keep us in the loop; we are here to help, good sir!
Again, wish you well.
~ Anne ~
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
DAC:
Drive-A-Check Report
A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).
It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.
Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.
OWI:
Operating While Intoxicated
OOS:
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
Thanks, a lot Anne for your help it definitely was helpful and sparked some ideas.
You're most welcome, Ro C. Wish I had more for you. Stick around, and perhaps start a thread of YOUR own. . . for a better following, and more replies. I sure wish you the best; I'm just one of the MANY peeps on this site, and you MAY get other and better replies. Location might help, also. Yours, not mine, haha! (You should add that, for more info!)
Have you ventured the 'CraigsList' way? Not that we recommend that, because small/shady companies can destroy your DAC as you are repairing it, in the same breath. Just wondering out loud.
Also, even though driving something like a Dump Truck; CLASS B won't 'count' to your overall CDL A experience.. it could help YOU in the long run, understanding the ins and outs of some of the places the big rigs go, and get a 'look see,' for the moment. It doesn't count, but sure wouldn't hurt. You COULD get in with your CDL, should you choose to stay in the 'industry' until April ~!
My 2 cents turned into 200 . . . LoL~!
Keep us in the loop; we are here to help, good sir!
Again, wish you well.
~ Anne ~
Anytime! The hubby's been driving almost 20 years, including dump trucks/vactor rollofs, and I've learned a lot from and through; always happy to share. Let me (us!) know if anything comes to fruition for ya.
Stay safe!
~ Anne ~
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
DAC:
Drive-A-Check Report
A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).
It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.
Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.
OWI:
Operating While Intoxicated
OOS:
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
So I’m dealing with this right now I failed a drug test for prime (cannabis) in April of 2019 had only a cdl permit. Just completed school in Oct 2020. Was in talks with western express and they told me prime reported that I failed to hire right. Of course all talks was off. So now I’m just stuck because I don’t know what to do from here. Any real suggestions on what my next steps should be? Most companies ask have you failed a drug test within the last two years do I wait the two years out which would b April of 2021 or can I still be hired somewhere
I'm going to venture the opinion that if you failed a DOT DRUG SCREEN - the only way to overcome it is to complete a "Return To Duty Protocol" SAP - and this is going to be at your own expense.
While you missed the cutoff for your failure to be noted on FMCSA's Drug/Alcohol Clearinghouse - that DAC report is going to haunt you.
People who have years on the road, that drop hot (and are otherwise incident free/productive driver) and do a SAP, have a way easier time than folks who have never driven at all, and drop hot at a training orientation. For folks who are experience and have an "ooopsie", is one thing (albeit still very foolish when you know you can be dropped at any time) - but for folks who are trying to get trained, the company is taking a HUGE RISK in investing in someones training, that can't even show up clean at an orientation. Not to sound harsh - but that is the harsh reality of the situation. I would ask the recruiter to get in touch with safety, and enquire if you would be required to complete a SAP to even be considered.
Rick
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
- Commercial Drivers' Licenses
- Data and Analysis
- Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
- Research and Technology
- Safety Assistance
- Support and Information Sharing
SAP:
Substance Abuse Professional
The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.DAC:
Drive-A-Check Report
A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).
It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.
Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.
I agree definitely was a huge foolish risk and mistake. To be clear you are saying contact the recruiter for the company i failed with?
So I’m dealing with this right now I failed a drug test for prime (cannabis) in April of 2019 had only a cdl permit. Just completed school in Oct 2020. Was in talks with western express and they told me prime reported that I failed to hire right. Of course all talks was off. So now I’m just stuck because I don’t know what to do from here. Any real suggestions on what my next steps should be? Most companies ask have you failed a drug test within the last two years do I wait the two years out which would b April of 2021 or can I still be hired somewhere
I'm going to venture the opinion that if you failed a DOT DRUG SCREEN - the only way to overcome it is to complete a "Return To Duty Protocol" SAP - and this is going to be at your own expense.
While you missed the cutoff for your failure to be noted on FMCSA's Drug/Alcohol Clearinghouse - that DAC report is going to haunt you.
People who have years on the road, that drop hot (and are otherwise incident free/productive driver) and do a SAP, have a way easier time than folks who have never driven at all, and drop hot at a training orientation. For folks who are experience and have an "ooopsie", is one thing (albeit still very foolish when you know you can be dropped at any time) - but for folks who are trying to get trained, the company is taking a HUGE RISK in investing in someones training, that can't even show up clean at an orientation. Not to sound harsh - but that is the harsh reality of the situation. I would ask the recruiter to get in touch with safety, and enquire if you would be required to complete a SAP to even be considered.
Rick
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
- Commercial Drivers' Licenses
- Data and Analysis
- Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
- Research and Technology
- Safety Assistance
- Support and Information Sharing
SAP:
Substance Abuse Professional
The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.DAC:
Drive-A-Check Report
A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).
It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.
Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.
Ro, I think Rick means any and all recruiters you speak with. You may not realize the gravity of your mistake. It's likely that you are done already. You have made the biggest blunder possible when trying to enter a safety sensitive industry. I can assure you that you are going to have to do the SAP to get yourself in some sort of "Return To Duty" status. The problem is that nobody is required to hire you even after going through that process. You have labeled yourself as a user and that label is very difficult to get past.
We've got a number of pages in our website explaining this whole process. Take the time and study this information. Hopefully you can find a way to get yourself back on the right path. Check out these pages explaining The Return To Duty Status Process.
SAP:
Substance Abuse Professional
The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.
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CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles: