What Would You Do In This Situation.

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Steven H.'s Comment
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About to get a job back otr my current employer wants me to drive to Panama city tomorrow. As of now I have a perfect driving record my concern is now the companies I have applied for have already ran my mvr etc. The truck he wants me to drive is a yard truck meaning is in very bad shape. There are no wipers on the truck hole in the floor board non of the gauges work air leaks everywhere front end is messed up lights work when they want to. It would honestly be easier to tell dot to mark everything wrong and let's go correct the stuff that's right. If I refuse to drive it I may get canned but I need to work till I leave just don't know if I should take the risk.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

Pat M.'s Comment
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You already know the answer to this one. If you get fired then immediately apply for unemployment and contest any denial because you were let go because of refusal to drive an unsafe truck.

Matt H.'s Comment
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FMCSA - Coercion - Whistleblower

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Steven H.'s Comment
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Thank you Matt and yes I know I shouldn't but with already having financial problems of disconnect notices and eviction makes it a tougher descion to make sorry if it seemed like a obvious question but there are a lot of factors that were having me consider it I do apologize.

FMCSA - Coercion - Whistleblower

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
ChickieMonster's Comment
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100% agree with both responses.

It's YOUR license on the line here. No one else.

For someone to fire you for not driving unsafe equipment is illegal. Wrongful termination.

Do not move that truck, not even ten feet. If you take it to DOT , guess who is going to be paying for all the violations? YOU, not your employer.

RESPECTFULLY tell your boss that is unsafe for that truck to be moved. You are not willing to put YOUR license in jeopardy.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

ChickieMonster's Comment
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And just because these companies have already ran your MVR doesn't mean they won't do it again. And companies don't report to your DAC until AFTER you have separated employment with them.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Steven H.'s Comment
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That's what me and my father in law where talking about if something did happen I'd have to tell them because they would find out and possibly terminate for with holding information.

Farmerbob1's Comment
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About to get a job back otr my current employer wants me to drive to Panama city tomorrow. As of now I have a perfect driving record my concern is now the companies I have applied for have already ran my mvr etc. The truck he wants me to drive is a yard truck meaning is in very bad shape. There are no wipers on the truck hole in the floor board non of the gauges work air leaks everywhere front end is messed up lights work when they want to. It would honestly be easier to tell dot to mark everything wrong and let's go correct the stuff that's right. If I refuse to drive it I may get canned but I need to work till I leave just don't know if I should take the risk.

The answer is no. Others have said the same thing, but have been basing the discussion on laws, etc.

I'm basing my 'no' on your life. Even if you lose your house, it's better than losing your life, and that truck sounds like a potential deathtrap if you take it up to highway speeds. In a yard, it might be drivable, but in a yard, it probably will not roll much faster than you can run.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

Steven H.'s Comment
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Thanks tough choice to make having people to assure me is the right choice means a lot I appreciate it talked to family that agree is not worth it and will help me out until a company picks me. Should worst case scenario happens.

Pianoman's Comment
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My best friend's dad is a police officer, and I had a situation at a previous job in which I wasn't sure if I should drive the equipment. He told me I could call the highway patrol anonymously and ask them to come inspect the trucks in our yard. Obviously the point of an anonymous tip is that they can come place the vehicle out of service and it doesn't come back to you. Even if you didn't do it anonymously, you're protected by law from your employer harassing you or terminating you because of it.

Anyways, that's just an option. I personally wouldn't go there unless I had to. Take some pictures of the truck and then have a respectful conversation with your boss about why you cannot safely drive the vehicle. If he threatens to fire you if you don't drive it, that's when I might try the anonymous tip idea. Or simply refuse to drive it, and if he fires you, you've got pictures.

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