I NEED HELP!!!
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Taxman, I think either one of those statements are invaluable
My apology - I could have worded that much better. It should say that neither statement has much value.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Old School - I assumed Jeffrey P and Larry K were at the same point in the process, completed a 160 hour school, hold a CLP , failed the skills test twice, will qualify for a CDL-A as soon as they pass the skills test, the difference being that Larry has a school standing behind him and a carrier wanting to put him in TNT when he finishes earning his CDL. My question was: "Would Jeffrey improve his position by seeking testing on his own to obtain his CDL?" If that didn't get through, I must have worded it terribly the first time.
Rainy - I see what you mean about the training certificate. If a driver applies for work with a freshly minted CDL , says he went to school for four weeks to get it, but doesn't have the certificate, does that mean his next employer will not put him in TNT without putting him through the 160 hours again?
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
TWIC:
Transportation Worker Identification Credential
Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.
Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.
TNT:
Trainer-N-Trainee
Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.
The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.
The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14ยข per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.
CLP:
Commercial Learner's Permit
Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.
Our whole point is that Jeffrey lacks a certificate. It doesn't matter if he goes to a third party tester - they can't give him a certificate. Roehl isn't going to give him a certificate just because he got his permit. If he had passed his driving test, then they would give him his certificate, and a job.
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There's a couple issues here.
1) Was he an actual.paid employee? Each company is different and people sometimes confuse the terms. At prime you are not an employee until you actually acquire the CDL. That is going to make a difference because as an employee, it will be on his DAC and they will state why he was terminated. I'm.not familiar with how Roehl does it. If he was not paid, he has no DAC. He will be asked if he attended others schools though.
2) the schools provide a training certificate. If they will not release his certificate, another company will want to start from scratch as he has no proof of training. Regardless of whether he has the CDl or not.
3) something sounds off about the "I failed twice and got fired". Each state is different, but in MO you get three tries for each test portion. Then you have to wait a year. Those scores carry over to different states. If I failed the driving test three times I could go test in NJ then return to prime with my CDL. And if you pass the pretrip and backing in one state, you need only do the road test. I thought all states let you test at least three times on each portion.
So my questions are...what was the exact cause for termination? Was the OP truly a paid employee?/ Did they offer to hire you once you get the CDL? And what happens to your certificate?
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
DAC:
Drive-A-Check Report
A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).
It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.
Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.
TWIC:
Transportation Worker Identification Credential
Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.
Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.