Is It Good To Work For Unions ?

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Pitkin's Comment
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Hi guys.Thank you so much your helpfull explanation of this unions situation.Let me tell you quickly why I'm asking about them.Mid May i graduated from local CDL school and got my license.I'm glad i go it and I was very thankfull for everything I learned here and everything I read.It helped me a lot.Friend of mine told me he is working for local union and would ask around about job.When I called number he gave me,I was told that they would call me back.Week later I called same number and was asking If there is a chance to get job or not.I got offer to drive Dump truck for summer,become union member.I want it to drive.When I spoke to friend who help with this,he told me about having only CDL B not A like i do.Then We went to details about unions,salary,work and other things.I took this job because pay is just too good.No benefits,for now only for about 3 months.We will have meeting after summer w unions.Because im new to driving and unions,I just need you guys to tell me your opinions.Im aware of that this job won't help me move forward with experiences as driver but im Wellingtonom to try it and move from here.Hopefully I can stay here all summer and get some info later.3-6 months in driving ísť not as much.Hopefully they might have other jobs for my and If not,I know I can find something else.Thank you

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Pitkin's Comment
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Thank you both of again.I will try to look for some local LTL companies you mentioned 6 string rhythm.I might not get Lúčky because I'm just starting fresh out of school but i will definitelly call them and ask.Brett thanks for your advice and all you doing here for us.High road test are great and thanks to you I'm holdingu my CDL today.Thank u again

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier
C T.'s Comment
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Hate to takeover thread here, just want you guys opinion. There are several ltl companies near me hiring as I type this. Upsf, saia, old dominion as well as rl carriers although they're a little further out. I interviewed with Upsf and they have several positions available. One line haul spot and a city driver position. Saia is hiring for line haul as well and OD has a P&D position posted. Upsf wants me to road test with doubles. Any thoughts?

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

P&D:

Pickup & Delivery

Local drivers that stay around their area, usually within 100 mile radius of a terminal, picking up and delivering loads.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers for instance will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Line Haul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

Pitkin's Comment
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The only downside to this job is no benefits right now and sesonal job.I might sit home in winter

6 string rhythm's Comment
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Hate to takeover thread here, just want you guys opinion. There are several ltl companies near me hiring as I type this. Upsf, saia, old dominion as well as rl carriers although they're a little further out. I interviewed with Upsf and they have several positions available. One line haul spot and a city driver position. Saia is hiring for line haul as well and OD has a P&D position posted. Upsf wants me to road test with doubles. Any thoughts?

SAIA has a lot to offer with their free benefits for the entire family after 10 years of service and immediate vesting with 401k. They pay the same as Old Dominion for linehaul , and for P&D they offer time and a half after 45 hours. OD doesn't pay overtime till 60 hours - so OD basically stands for "Overtime Denied." smile.gif

I'm by no means dogging OD. I love working for them. I would definitely look at OD and SAIA. Personally, I would stay away from UPSF.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

P&D:

Pickup & Delivery

Local drivers that stay around their area, usually within 100 mile radius of a terminal, picking up and delivering loads.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers for instance will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Line Haul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

C T.'s Comment
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Thanks a ton 6. I wanted some insight before I went in to interview with upsf, but didn't have the chance. Their entry level line haul paid 43 cpm to start and 17.50 or so for city. However they had a bid coming up on the 1st of July and said that I could be moved around if a more senior driver bid on my position. Is that normal? Also, any idea what the starting rates are at saia?

Line Haul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

Pitkin's Comment
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Thank you 6 string rhythm.I talked to UPSF and they need 1 y experiences.I just looked at the OD web site and they want all endorsments and plus 1y experiences.I didn't talk to them but when I m ready I will call.I would need to get Hazmat because I don't have it.Will look into it

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Shiva's Comment
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I believe unions are good, help to create a living wage, get decent health benefits, PTO etc. I also believe unions help to make non union companies have competitive wages and benefits. Accept if something happens and you're called into the office to speak about an incident for example, you will not have representation. That is just 1 example

6 string rhythm's Comment
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Thank you 6 string rhythm.I talked to UPSF and they need 1 y experiences.I just looked at the OD web site and they want all endorsments and plus 1y experiences.I didn't talk to them but when I m ready I will call.I would need to get Hazmat because I don't have it.Will look into it

I wouldn't go by the website. The required experience is different depending on the terminal where you're applying. For example, I came into my linehaul job without any experience. You should call up the local terminal and speak with the linehaul manager. But, you will definitely need your hazmat, doubles / triples, and tank endorsements.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

6 string rhythm's Comment
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I believe unions are good, help to create a living wage, get decent health benefits, PTO etc. I also believe unions help to make non union companies have competitive wages and benefits. Accept if something happens and you're called into the office to speak about an incident for example, you will not have representation. That is just 1 example

I don't need representation at my company. My managers are reasonable people and we have an open door policy. And as I said earlier, I believe the wages are here to stay, with or without a union presence in LTL.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier
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