Is My Trucking Career Fked?

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Dustin M.'s Comment
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2 years ago i went with crst. I finnished truck driving school. During orientation i "admitted" to failing a drug test when i was 18 in late 2009 to a local construction company. I know im retarded dont remind me.

I got kicked out. Recently i talked to Schnieder and did an sap but they still didnt want nothing to do with me afterwards.

Pretty much every company ive talked to dosnt want anything to do with me.

The ones that are maybe do not offer a refresher course because i havnt been in a truck for about 2 years.

Am i ****ed and just walk away or is there any companies that you know of that offers refresher courses and accepts no experienced cdl holders with a past failed non dot drug test.

Im going to keep calling every company i can but any advise would be great. Im completly drug and alcohol free.

If i have to wait 1.5 years for it to be 10 years then so be it. Cause that is the policy of many companies

Thanks

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Brett Aquila's Comment
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Dustin, you're definitely going to be able to find a shot. You're career isn't over by any means.

I always recommend CR England and Carolina Cargo for anyone with a tough history to overcome. They tend to give people an opportunity when others won't. Give those two a call and see what they say.

Also, here is a list of companies that hire people with felonies. Obviously that's not you, but it shows they're a little more willing to give someone a second chance:

Trucking Companies That Hire Drivers With Felonies

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Old School's Comment
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Have you tried Western Express? At one time they had a refresher program where they paired you with another driver, who needed a refresher, as a team operation. After a certain amount of miles they would give you an evaluation and determine if they could let you run your own truck. They tend to be a little more relaxed with their hiring standards than some of the other companies.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Have you tried Western Express?

I knew there was a third one I wanted to mention but I couldn't think of it. Geez!

Rainy D.'s Comment
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Im confused. It sounds like you went to CDL school, but never got training or drove the truck? now you want a refresher course?

My company would require full training for anyone who has not driven, not a refresher.

so my question is...is your problem getting hired with the failed drug test, or your lack of wanting training?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Old School's Comment
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Rainy, I'm pretty sure CRST has labeled him for life with the information they put on his DAC report. He's gone through a SAP program which unfortunately also puts a label on you. I'm pretty sure the drug issue is what's keeping him from entering the field. He's got a CDL , no experience, and a big black stain that's really difficult to overcome.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Rainy D.'s Comment
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The ones that are maybe do not offer a refresher course because i havnt been in a truck for about 2 years.

That to me sounded like although the company might take him, that he did not want to go through a full training program, but a refresher course only.

Nighthawk has a diary where she failed a drug test around Christmas, but is now in training at PAMs school.

Try PAM

Old School's Comment
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No, I think those companies don't offer training, and he's going to need it so they can get him insured.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Cwc's Comment
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At this point after the SAP I might do some fast talking with CRST.. What's the worst it could do?

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

Dustin M.'s Comment
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At truck driving school i drove the semi with a 53 foot trailer around jacksonville for a combined total of a couple hours. I completly passed the truck driving school and have my class A in my hand.

I talked to schnieder and they said they didnt do anything to my dac. It was a non dot so i dont think its on my dac. Just an admition and its out there and i mention it right away cause i dont want to get kicked out again in the middle of almost getting there.

I would even be willing to do the schooling all over again but to me a refresher course is what most of the companies are recommending. I also wouldnt mind team driving for a couple months or with a trainer for a couple months. Deffently want to do this right but i know thr big insurance monster(for good reasons) requires all these.

I talked to crst just today. There policy like most of the big companies is 10 years no matter what.

Ill try out the list of companies that hires felons tomorrow.

Thanks for the replys

Dustin

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

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