Split Log Question

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Dave in Tulsa's Comment
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Came to pick up my load this morning and it's not ready. I went on duty at 830 and was on duty until 10. I was told to call them in 3 or 4 hours but it could be longer. I'm trying to get home so after I pick up I have a little over 7 hours to drive. My question is if I'm in the sleeper berth for 8 hours will I get my clock back minus the 90 minutes I was on duty?

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Old School's Comment
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The answer is...

YES!

David John's Comment
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Please understand I am a new rookie also.

I have been studying the rules and reading about this specifically in an attempt to learn. I will explain my understanding here and state that I am hoping Old School or another will confirm and/or correct if I am mistaken.

Perhaps this will be something to compare to your understanding.

If you go on sleeper at 10:00 and remain in the sleeper for 8 hours, that is until 18:00 (6pm) you will have “frozen” your clock from the time you went on sleeper. Now when you come on duty at 18:00 you will resume your clock from the point it was frozen. As you stated, you will have 14hrs - 90minutes and 11 hours - 90 minutes (or - actual drive time prior).

Now I believe, you have the additional benefit, after you begin the clock again, that after a 2 hour off-duty period (8hr+2hr) you will completely reset your 14/11 hour clocks.

So in this case, after your 8hr sleeper you will have 12:30 on-duty and 9:30 drive time. If during that period you take a 2 hour off-duty break you will completely reset your 14 hour, 11 hour clocks.

Thank you all for comments, input, correction and in general for educating us on this aspect of the FMCSR.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
PlanB's Comment
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8hr sleeper pauses your clocks from the moment you went into the sleeper. Once you hit 8hrs in that sleeper your clock will look exactly like it did when you went in the sleeper.

Came to pick up my load this morning and it's not ready. I went on duty at 830 and was on duty until 10. I was told to call them in 3 or 4 hours but it could be longer. I'm trying to get home so after I pick up I have a little over 7 hours to drive. My question is if I'm in the sleeper berth for 8 hours will I get my clock back minus the 90 minutes I was on duty?

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

PlanB's Comment
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Close.

The initial 8hr sleeper will paper your clocks as you stated. So your on duty and drive clocks will look exactly like they did when you went in the sleeper. If you only had used on duty time

One you complete that 2hr off duty period your 14 and 11 hr clocks will reset starting from the end of the 8hr sleeper period. So it's not exactly 10hr reset as anything you did between the 8hr and the 2hr will still come off your clock.

Please understand I am a new rookie also.

I have been studying the rules and reading about this specifically in an attempt to learn. I will explain my understanding here and state that I am hoping Old School or another will confirm and/or correct if I am mistaken.

Perhaps this will be something to compare to your understanding.

If you go on sleeper at 10:00 and remain in the sleeper for 8 hours, that is until 18:00 (6pm) you will have “frozen” your clock from the time you went on sleeper. Now when you come on duty at 18:00 you will resume your clock from the point it was frozen. As you stated, you will have 14hrs - 90minutes and 11 hours - 90 minutes (or - actual drive time prior).

Now I believe, you have the additional benefit, after you begin the clock again, that after a 2 hour off-duty period (8hr+2hr) you will completely reset your 14/11 hour clocks.

So in this case, after your 8hr sleeper you will have 12:30 on-duty and 9:30 drive time. If during that period you take a 2 hour off-duty break you will completely reset your 14 hour, 11 hour clocks.

Thank you all for comments, input, correction and in general for educating us on this aspect of the FMCSR.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
David John's Comment
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PlanB, thank you for that clarification.

I was wondering about that period after the 8hr / 2hr and how that reset worked. The way I described seemed a bit too generous.

Your explanation clears that up well!

David John's Comment
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PlanB, thank you for that clarification.
— David John

And here is the High Road CDL Training page (p95), within the Log Book section, that details the split sleeper reset. And details, as you describe, the point where I was mistaken.
This posted perhaps more for my future benefit/reference.

Trucking Truth High Road Training: HOS Split Sleeper Details

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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