Hello, Y'all~! 5'year Lurker..finally Saying HIYA W/ A Conundrum.

Topic 23407 | Page 3

Page 3 of 3 Previous Page Go To Page:
Anne A. (G13MomCat)'s Comment
member avatar

double-quotes-start.png

Went almost 30 over his 14, even though he had two live unloads yesterday, his drive time was only like 7.5 hours.... so because they won't give him PC (even though he was unladen / empty trailer) and they won't do the 16 exempt (once every 7 days, right?) he switched his QC to 100 mile air radius.

double-quotes-end.png

I havent personally dealt with the air mile exception but when i was doing warehouse work one of our drivers told me he needed to punch a time clock and couldn't drive after 12 hours because they couldn't track how much of his time was spent driving. This was 8 years ago so im unsure if that is still how it works.

Regarding the 16 hour rule. The basics of it is you must end your day at the same location as you started for 5 consecutive work days. You can only use this once per 7 days unless you've achieved a 34 hour reset. I dont believe he'd have trouble with the DOT due to going over hours like he did because its legal (assuming the criteria above was met for 16) but he'd likely be written up for breaking company policy. Im not sure who he drives for but a call to safety/logs department would probably be best so he can know for sure what proper procedure is. Ultimately its his responsibility to protect his license and operate legally regardless of what dispatch tells him.

Thanks so much for the reply, Rob. I didn't realize that about the 16 being 5 consecutive work days returning to the same location. Some days he takes the truck back to his yard in Mt. Vernon; some days (when running tight on time and coming from the north, he brings the rig home.)

He called safety, and they fixed the QC, but told him he actually started 4 minutes too early last night. They 'undid' the 100 air mile thing he put on the QC. It's still confusing, because some days he actually IS in that radius, others, not. I've been reading the regs and it's still unclear. Guess he'll just have to watch his clock better but man they run him hard. Two runs from Mt. Vernon to Toledo Ohio in one day is almost impossible, even drop and hook. He's gonna have to start refusing that 2nd run and take a small(er) one, like to Fremont for the 2nd from now on, methinks.

(We just got the darn thing this year, and haven't figured it all out yet; don't think the company totally has either, haha!)

ps: He drives for Fab Express. They are out of Joliet, IL but have many 'dedicated/intrastate' routes here in Ohio. Are you in their hiring area? They sure are looking for drivers, haha!!!!

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Intrastate:

The act of purchasers and sellers transacting business while keeping all transactions in a single state, without crossing state lines to do so.

Drop And Hook:

Drop and hook means the driver will drop one trailer and hook to another one.

In order to speed up the pickup and delivery process a driver may be instructed to drop their empty trailer and hook to one that is already loaded, or drop their loaded trailer and hook to one that is already empty. That way the driver will not have to wait for a trailer to be loaded or unloaded.

Bobcat_Bob's Comment
member avatar

Ahhh Fab right down the street from me, one of their drivers tried to get me to drive for them last year. After reading their website and complicated scheduling and seeing what your husband is going through I'm glad I stayed away.

Where in Ohio are you? He could check out Old Dominion they are very strict about logs and make sure you are 100% legal so it would remove a lot of unnecessary drama from your life.

Anne A. (G13MomCat)'s Comment
member avatar

Ahhh Fab right down the street from me, one of their drivers tried to get me to drive for them last year. After reading their website and complicated scheduling and seeing what your husband is going through I'm glad I stayed away.

Where in Ohio are you? He could check out Old Dominion they are very strict about logs and make sure you are 100% legal so it would remove a lot of unnecessary drama from your life.

Other than the log issues, he's pretty happy at FAB, tbh. Unlike Don, who came from OTR over to FAB, being USED to the QC .... they just kind of handed hubby that darned box, with virtually no training. He's been there 3 years, but this is the 1st year not on paper. Teaching old dogs new tricks is kinda iffy, haha!

We are just south of Mansfield, and about 40 minutes north of Columbus. Don't know where the nearest ODFL terminal is, tbh. He tried to get on with Estes NUMEROUS times, before he landed this job with Fab.

Live and learn, I guess. In a way, it's probably similar to trip planning OTR; know what you can, and cannot, legally do. That double Napoleon run in a day is just not do able. We know that now, LoL~!!

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Bobcat_Bob's Comment
member avatar

We have a large terminal in Columbus that would be your closest..

Maybe he could ask them to have someone show him how to work it?? It is also in their best interests to make sure he is logging correctly so they don't get in trouble with dot.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Anne A. (G13MomCat)'s Comment
member avatar

We have a large terminal in Columbus that would be your closest..

Maybe he could ask them to have someone show him how to work it?? It is also in their best interests to make sure he is logging correctly so they don't get in trouble with dot.

I'll pass that info on to him about y'all's terminal @ CMH (or C'Bus, LoL) ... always nice to have options; he's just got a bit of seniority where he is, at Fab. He's just gonna have to choose his runs more carefully, or 'consult with the wife' more often, LoL!

He's been seeing ads about WMPF (I was talking to G Town about that, above...) making 86K or such, and biting his fingernails; that's about 10K more than he's making now, tbh. I doubt he will take ANY plunge any time soon; he'll probably retire from Fab, or I'll be OTR and he can play Mr. Mom, haha. Still have one young'un in school, so we can't 'both' drive anymore. One never knows; options in back pockets sure can't hurt.

I agree with the extra (or ANY!!) QC training; he'd probably have to fly to Chicago (Lemont, IL) where safety is, to get any training, tbh. At least Don is getting trained correctly~!

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Page 3 of 3 Previous Page Go To Page:

New Reply:

New! Check out our help videos for a better understanding of our forum features

Bold
Italic
Underline
Quote
Photo
Link
Smiley
Links On TruckingTruth


example: TruckingTruth Homepage



example: https://www.truckingtruth.com
Submit
Cancel
Upload New Photo
Please enter a caption of one sentence or less:

Click on any of the buttons below to insert a link to that section of TruckingTruth:

Getting Started In Trucking High Road Training Program Company-Sponsored Training Programs Apply For Company-Sponsored Training Truck Driver's Career Guide Choosing A School Choosing A Company Truck Driving Schools Truck Driving Jobs Apply For Truck Driving Jobs DOT Physical Drug Testing Items To Pack Pre-Hire Letters CDL Practice Tests Trucking Company Reviews Brett's Book Leasing A Truck Pre-Trip Inspection Learn The Logbook Rules Sleep Apnea
Done
Done

0 characters so far - 5,500 maximum allowed.
Submit Preview

Preview:

Submit
Cancel

Join Us!

We have an awesome set of tools that will help you understand the trucking industry and prepare for a great start to your trucking career. Not only that, but everything we offer here at TruckingTruth is 100% free - no strings attached! Sign up now and get instant access to our member's section:
High Road Training Program Logo
  • The High Road Training Program
  • The High Road Article Series
  • The Friendliest Trucker's Forum Ever!
  • Email Updates When New Articles Are Posted

Apply For Paid CDL Training Through TruckingTruth

Did you know you can fill out one quick form here on TruckingTruth and apply to several companies at once for paid CDL training? Seriously! The application only takes one minute. You will speak with recruiters today. There is no obligation whatsoever. Learn more and apply here:

Apply For Paid CDL Training

About Us

TruckingTruth was founded by Brett Aquila (that's me!), a 15 year truck driving veteran, in January 2007. After 15 years on the road I wanted to help people understand the trucking industry and everything that came with the career and lifestyle of an over the road trucker. We'll help you make the right choices and prepare for a great start to your trucking career.

Read More

Becoming A Truck Driver

Becoming A Truck Driver is a dream we've all pondered at some point in our lives. We've all wondered if the adventure and challenges of life on the open road would suit us better than the ordinary day to day lives we've always known. At TruckingTruth we'll help you decide if trucking is right for you and help you get your career off to a great start.

Learn More