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Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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I am finally making the leap.

I have wound my business down, and hopefully can get all my accounts receivables in by the 12th, but I have a date at Sage in Rome, NY, have paid for my lodging, and have a pre-hire from Wolding, which was my top choice of who I wanted to work for. I have my CDL permit, with tankers and HazMat , though they won't list HazMat until I pass the TSA check. Should I start that process now? Also have my DOT medical card.

Anything I am missing?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Mr. Curmudgeon's Comment
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Grumpy, the TSA check doesn't take too long to complete. If you start now, you should be approved by the time you complete CDL school. If you opt out of driving for any reason, you will still likely get TSA Pre-Check status any time you fly, based on your TSA clearance for Haz. Check with Wolding, however, to see if they will assist and possibly cover the $85 or so it costs to get fingerprinted.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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Grumpy, the TSA check doesn't take too long to complete. If you start now, you should be approved by the time you complete CDL school. If you opt out of driving for any reason, you will still likely get TSA Pre-Check status any time you fly, based on your TSA clearance for Haz. Check with Wolding, however, to see if they will assist and possibly cover the $85 or so it costs to get fingerprinted.

How do I start the process? I'm not too worried about the $85, they will either reimburse me, or it will be an investment in my future.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
andhe78's Comment
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Good luck with Wolding, if my heart hadn't been set on flatbed, they would have been my first choice too.

I may not be much help on the hazmat , since they wouldn't even let me sit for the test until I had my CDL in hand. Once I had my CDL, I took the test and they gave me a sheet of paper to take to any fingerprinting place. Got the fingerprints, then had to wait for approval to arrive in the mail, which I then took back down to the DMV and they gave me a temp CDL with the hazmat endorsement, till my license arrived in the mail. May be a bit different at other DMV's.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

andhe78's Comment
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Do you have an enhanced license, passport, or TWIC? Not sure if you'd need them, but I went for everything when starting out and don't regret it.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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Good luck with Wolding, if my heart hadn't been set on flatbed, they would have been my first choice too.

I may not be much help on the hazmat , since they wouldn't even let me sit for the test until I had my CDL in hand. Once I had my CDL, I took the test and they gave me a sheet of paper to take to any fingerprinting place. Got the fingerprints, then had to wait for approval to arrive in the mail, which I then took back down to the DMV and they gave me a temp CDL with the hazmat endorsement, till my license arrived in the mail. May be a bit different at other DMV's.

Ah, OK, they let me take the test, but it isn't on my permit. Said it won't show until I get the security check. Maybe you can't do the check until you have the actual CDL instead of a permit?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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Good luck with Wolding, if my heart hadn't been set on flatbed, they would have been my first choice too.

I may not be much help on the hazmat , since they wouldn't even let me sit for the test until I had my CDL in hand. Once I had my CDL, I took the test and they gave me a sheet of paper to take to any fingerprinting place. Got the fingerprints, then had to wait for approval to arrive in the mail, which I then took back down to the DMV and they gave me a temp CDL with the hazmat endorsement, till my license arrived in the mail. May be a bit different at other DMV's.

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Ah, OK, they let me take the test, but it isn't on my permit. Said it won't show until I get the security check. Maybe you can't do the check until you have the actual CDL instead of a permit?

I almost went with Maverick, but they told me all that was open was glass, and at the time, because of my broken ankle, I was unsure if I would be able to climb the glass racks to tarp them. Now I think I probably could. I still may be with Maverick someday, if Wolding doesn't work out.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

andhe78's Comment
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Good luck with Wolding, if my heart hadn't been set on flatbed, they would have been my first choice too.

I may not be much help on the hazmat , since they wouldn't even let me sit for the test until I had my CDL in hand. Once I had my CDL, I took the test and they gave me a sheet of paper to take to any fingerprinting place. Got the fingerprints, then had to wait for approval to arrive in the mail, which I then took back down to the DMV and they gave me a temp CDL with the hazmat endorsement, till my license arrived in the mail. May be a bit different at other DMV's.

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Ah, OK, they let me take the test, but it isn't on my permit. Said it won't show until I get the security check. Maybe you can't do the check until you have the actual CDL instead of a permit?

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I almost went with Maverick, but they told me all that was open was glass, and at the time, because of my broken ankle, I was unsure if I would be able to climb the glass racks to tarp them. Now I think I probably could. I still may be with Maverick someday, if Wolding doesn't work out.

Yeah, I remember being surprised when you mentioned this about Maverick, because I had the USA division available at my location when I started last year. They must have changed that this year. Been half expecting them to tell me I need to go glass now, but hopefully am grandfathered into flatbed. I've been able to get loads in and out of Buffalo every time I want to go home.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Mr. Curmudgeon's Comment
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How do I start the process? I'm not too worried about the $85, they will either reimburse me, or it will be an investment in my future.

Grumpy, this link takes you to the starting point of the process. You will have to pay $85 to proceed into it, but it's easy breezy if you have the documents. https://www.tsa.gov/for-industry/hazmat-endorsement

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Mr. Curmudgeon's Comment
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Sorry - the link isn't formatting correctly - use a search engine, enter TSA Hazmat and look for the ".gov" site. There are a ton of places that will take your money to help you apply. Just follow the directions on the TSA site and you'll work through it pretty easy.

https://www.tsa.gov/for-industry/hazmat-endorsement

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

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