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RedGator (Nalee)'s Comment
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If your gonna give up that easy on a test by all means plz save yourself the trouble of getting your cdl. You wouldnt make it out here a week! This job is tuff and has repetitive issues each with different results. If you cant take the frustration on a test you dont have what it takes to make it in the trucking world. Sorry Brett delete this if you want but its true. And keith the lever is a trolly break and the parking break is a knob 2 totally different breaks which is why you are getting it wrong. The question isnt wrong you are!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Keith G.'s Comment
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Keith, I think after thinking further about this you are simply not understanding the question. You seem to be a little short on patience and that is probably what's causing your snag. The questions are sometimes worded in such a way that you have to read them carefully. The very simple reason they are done this way is because that is exactly how they are often times in the actual state exams. They want to see if you are paying attention and understand the little nuances about the rules. If you just race through the question and don't really understand what it is asking you for then you are doomed to answer it incorrectly, you may even be able to quote the answer you gave from the manual, but if that's not what the question is asking you for then you still haven't gotten the answer correct.

Now, we have occasionally had someone find a mistake in the system and we are thankful for them pointing it out to us. If you would be so kind as to quote the question that is snagging you up Brett would be able to determine what's happening here and maybe help you move forward. So if you could do that for us we would appreciate it greatly.

I know you're trying to be helpful, but you're off base , I am not misunderstanding the question, it's not about rules or anything complicated. It;s a simple straighforward question (question #215) with multiple answers, asking which one is true, using the system you all seem to love so much (having the answers handed to you rather than actually testing your knowledge) I went to the referenced page(page 43) and chose the answer that is an exact quote, not almost, not reworded, exact, word for word including punctuation, and it repeatedly tells me that that is the wrong answer and that the right answer is one that I posted earlier which is not right(have you ever seen a round red knob used for setting brakes? if it offered answers about diamond shaped yellow or octagonal red knobs I could see somebody maybe misunderstanding but it does not) I found another site that I can use for $15 rather than one that has been proven to be faulty so I choose to use the pay site that has not shown I can't trust it

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Keith G.'s Comment
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If your gonna give up that easy on a test by all means plz save yourself the trouble of getting your cdl. You wouldnt make it out here a week! This job is tuff and has repetitive issues each with different results. If you cant take the frustration on a test you dont have what it takes to make it in the trucking world. Sorry Brett delete this if you want but its true. And keith the lever is a trolly break and the parking break is a knob 2 totally different breaks which is why you are getting it wrong. The question isnt wrong you are!

I was already out there for 22 years and survived just fine !!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Roadkill (aka:Guy DeCou)'s Comment
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Well, there ya go Brett...all this time you've had a defective test..how on earth did all those guys get so lucky and score 100% when they studied a test that was obviously defective..who knows HOW many of those questions are wrong..I mean, Jeez, Louise...you've had hundreds of drivers out there studying the high road test series and getting 100% test scores on sheer dumb luck..I'm with Keith..I'm quitting this free test series because I mean, heck if ONE question out of several hundred could POSSILYbe wrong...well, I mean, Mister, that just Isn't gonna CUT IT...I'm gonna go and pay my hard earned money and sign up for a site that will give me a 100% money back guarantee that all of their questions will be right...and who knows..I might become a SUPER TRUCKER..and make $45 dollars and hour..and only drive the Hardest, widest, most Hazardous loads, you know, the one NO ONE ELSE can even think about driving..

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
RedGator (Nalee)'s Comment
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Well, there ya go Brett...all this time you've had a defective test..how on earth did all those guys get so lucky and score 100% when they studied a test that was obviously defective..who knows HOW many of those questions are wrong..I mean, Jeez, Louise...you've had hundreds of drivers out there studying the high road test series and getting 100% test scores on sheer dumb luck..I'm with Keith..I'm quitting this free test series because I mean, heck if ONE question out of several hundred could POSSILYbe wrong...well, I mean, Mister, that just Isn't gonna CUT IT...I'm gonna go and pay my hard earned money and sign up for a site that will give me a 100% money back guarantee that all of their questions will be right...and who knows..I might become a SUPER TRUCKER..and make $45 dollars and hour..and only drive the Hardest, widest, most Hazardous loads, you know, the one NO ONE ELSE can even think about driving..

OMG GUY:-) I love you lol

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Doug 's Comment
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I was already out there for 22 years and survived just fine !!

There you have it folks, a perfect example of why this profession gets no respect. Attitudes just like that. The times they are a changing Keith.

Doug 's Comment
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For every Brett, Old School and Daniel there are a thousand Keiths out there.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Great Answer!

For every Brett, Old School and Daniel there are a thousand Keiths out there.

Ain't that the truth!

Ok, I went into the system to find the questions Keith is talking about so we can get this straightened out.

Question # 213: Which of the following statements about Parking Brake Controls is false?

A) On older vehicles, the parking brakes may be controlled by a lever

B) All of these statements are true

C) You apply the parking brakes using a circle-shaped, red knob

D) You pull the knob out to put the parking brakes (spring brakes) on.

The correct answer is C because it is indeed false - you do not apply the parking brakes using a circle-shaped, red knob. Here's the explanation copied and pasted from the CDL manual itself:

Parking Brake Controls - In newer vehicles with air brakes, you apply the parking brakes using a diamond-shaped, yellow, push-pull control knob. You pull the knob out to put the parking brakes (spring brakes) on, and push it in to release them. On older vehicles, the parking brakes may be controlled by a lever. Use the parking brakes whenever you park.

Caution: Never push the brake pedal down when the spring brakes are on. If you do, the brakes could be damaged by the combined forces of the springs and the air pressure. Many brake systems are designed so this will not happen. But not all systems are set up that way, and those that are may not always work. It is much better to develop the habit of not pushing the brake pedal down when the spring brakes are on.

Question # 204: Which of the following is true about Supply Pressure Gauges?

A) These gauges tell you how much pressure is in the air tanks

B) If the vehicle has a dual air brake system, there will be a gauge for each half of the system (or a single gauge with two needles)

C) All of these answers are true

D) All air-brake vehicles have a pressure gauge connected to the air tank

The correct answer is C because all of those are true. Here's the explanation copied and pasted straight out of the CDL manual itself:

All air-brake vehicles have a pressure gauge connected to the air tank. If the vehicle has a dual air brake system, there will be a gauge for each half of the system (or a single gauge with two needles). These gauges tell you how much pressure is in the air tanks.

So there you have it. Keith, our system is correct. I'm afraid your answers were wrong.

Keith, I get private emails all the time from people asking me to explain certain questions from our training program. It's a tough system and there's a lot of tricky questions. But instead of being appreciative and respectful of what we're trying to do here to help people like yourself you decided to come here publicly to try to humiliate not only me, but more importantly the awesome people that come here every day trying to learn more about the industry or help others get their career underway. And for what? All you had to do was ask me for an explanation. That's what I'm here for. That's what we do.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Starcar's Comment
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Gee....and all I wanted to do was go give him this rotten cold I have....Its alot worse than missing a question on a test...

Ray F. (aka. Mongo)'s Comment
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Keith good luck to you wherever you go. The reason I am here is to learn from those that have been there and done that. I am coming to the trucking industry to get away from people just like you.

After spending the last 14 years in Corrections I have learnt a lot about how to read and deal with people. Now I know that being one of the senior sergeants at my facility doesn't make me a know it all. But I can dang sure tell you that a lot of the officers I have trained over the years are better off and safer from doing things the way they were shown and taught by me and other's.

Brett does have a really good system here. This is not butt kissing. It is a fact. One has to look at the bigger picture not focus one one small detail.

I want to close with a Thank You to Brett and all of the other fine people on this site who share their knowledge and wisdom with those of us. Trying to get a start in this industry.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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