I Have My CDL Permit. Does This Give Me A Leg Up At A Company CDL School

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Michael B.'s Comment
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Mike D. First is the little foam earplugs. During my first 50 hours before team driving...My mentor snores....LOUDLY!!!! They help with noise after that. As far as sleeping while moving, sleep on your back or stomach. I find on my side I kind of "roll around" with the bumps and such. I get less roll and more stability laying more flat. We can't expect the trainer not to use the radio if not for his liking it maybe for safetys sake to keep him from driving alone in silence and falling asleep. Don't drink much 3-5 hours before your SB time so you don't wake up having to pee as much. Hope something I wrote helps.

Rainy D.'s Comment
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If you are going to attend an out of state CDL school you have to have the permit, your permit has to be issued by your home state.

Not always true.

At Prime In MO you use the Prime owned motel as your residence to get a MO CLP. Im guessing if the company owns a motel they can do this. In UT and PA at Prime, I believe you get your home state CLP and again im guessing it is because prime doesnt own the motels there.

However, there were 2 companies mentioned on the Diaries thread where the same situation occured. Ive been looking to see which and dont see the threads. So it depends on the company.

The CDL exam.scores are saved in a national database that even IL that used to be a problem isnt anymore.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Michael B.'s Comment
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Rainy, when I went to Springfield in Sept, Oct. 2018 We were told that Missouri DOT put a stop to that "temporary resident" loophole. They said there were a couple companies that would still do it but they weren't supposed to and would be stopped. Prime wasn't specifically mentioned. Not claiming to know the law in all states, just what I was told while in Missouri by C-1. We had a guy in class from Arkansas that brought his paper saying he passed the permit test but he forgot to get the actual permit. He asked about that and that was what he was told by the boss man there. He was sent home to Arkansas.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Big Red (Mike)'s Comment
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Rainy, when I went to Springfield in Sept, Oct. 2018 We were told that Missouri DOT put a stop to that "temporary resident" loophole. They said there were a couple companies that would still do it but they weren't supposed to and would be stopped. Prime wasn't specifically mentioned. Not claiming to know the law in all states, just what I was told while in Missouri by C-1. We had a guy in class from Arkansas that brought his paper saying he passed the permit test but he forgot to get the actual permit. He asked about that and that was what he was told by the boss man there. He was sent home to Arkansas.

I'm in a private Missouri school and just got my permit last week. I had a Texas license when I got there. The DMV required my TX DL, birth certificate, medical card, and a letter from the school that attested to my attendance and temporary residence. I took all the permit tests and, after passing, received the paper that showed I passed. I took that paper and everything else to another window where they issued me a temporary Missouri license, a CDL permit, and punched "VOID" into my TX license before returning it to me. Upon successful completion of the CDL practical exam, I will be issued a Missouri CDL (short duration, I presume) which I take to TX to get my TX license restored with CDL-A privileges and all applicable endorsements. No issues at all. BTW, the school does not own the motel I am in. (It's really sad they sent a student home because of incorrect information).

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Robert D. (Raptor)'s Comment
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I wasn't going to say anything that hasn't been said already, but I couldn't let it go. When I drove before I went with a local company out of school. Now I wouldn't recommend it. Too many things have changed since that time. I wish people would stop seeing that if they get their permit or even their CDL that they have a leg up as he stated in his remarks. What kind of leg up do you as a rookie think you deserve? I've been away from this for almost 9 years now and drove for 11 years. Do you think I deserve some kind of leg up? I don't think so! I'm starting out as a rookie driver all over again. And rightly so! What you have is a CDP period which states that you can pass a written exam. You haven't been behind the wheel of a big rig, do you know how to shift in a big rig? Not the same as driving a stick in a car or pickup. When I first got my drivers licence at 16 I did it in a stick because that is what I learned on. I didn't drive an automatic until I was 21. When I went to truck school before I thought that I would have a "leg up" of driving a stick. WRONG! Grinding gears was my first two days of class, until I got the rhythm down and never looked back. But that is not even the most important is your time management, can you safely get from point A to point B. Do you have road rage issues, can you get along with others on the road, in the company that hires you, with your DM , with other drivers, with receivers, etc. You need to do some humbling here, because you won't make it in this business with an attitude as yours.

Now I know that G-town will probably want to start that "conversation" again, whether stick vs. auto which is better, but I am not trying to say anything which is better, just that if he goes to a school or training company he might be subject to sticks and not automatics.

So many things out here that are different than before that he needs to be way more humble about his abilities, and not be so blatantly thinking he is in that much of a demand. Companies get that attitude from rookies all of the time. Check it at the door. Like, "Putting a outhouse in an elevator, it don't belong. "

You have to prove to the company that hires you and before that, you have to prove to the instructors at your school that you can do the skills to pass your CDL.

OK, enough said. I know to the experienced drivers, they think I'm a horses a**, and that's OK. I'm not here to win any "Miss Congeniality" contest. So I'm a little blunt.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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