Prime CDL Training Salt Lake City - January 2019

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CK's Comment
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I am enjoying reading the progression of your training CK. I am 6 years into law enforcement and have been aspiring to be a truck driver ever since I road with a friend who is an owner op. I have been too apprehensive to make such a career change though. The main reason is pay while still training as I have bills, car payments, insurance, rent, etc. Can you explain what kind of pay you are receiving from Prime while you are in training? Any and all advice is appreciated.

Prime covers: - Transportation to orientation - Hotel (continental breakfast) - Lunch and dinner during orientation

If you end up in the local program for PSD , they will cover the hotel for that too. Beginning Friday of your first week, you will receive your first $200 paycheck advance. This is a loan that must be paid back when you start TNT training at the rate of $25/wk.

Once you start TNT training and as long as you are available for dispatch, you'll be getting paid $700 per week for $0.14 per mile, whichever is greater.

Something to keep in mind as far as car insurance goes, is that you can drastically reduce your usage and receive a rate cut - I did this and I'm saving around $100 a month between my car and motorcycle insurance.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

CK's Comment
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Day 14:

Third roommate.

Alley dock today - not nearly as bad as it looks. Also went for a drive for a few hours with an instructor and two other trainees. We each got about 40 minutes each with lots of turns and freeway time. I was told that if it had been my driving test I would have passed. We also went over in-cab inspections again. I still need to be signed off on alley dock, in-cab and driving and then I can start talking about scheduling my test. I'm hoping for mid to late this week.

Spaceman Spiff's Comment
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I know this has been covered a bit before but I'm still just making 100% sure. CK, did they still only ask for 5 total years of work history if youve never had a CDL job or driving job of any kind? Tearing out the closet and garage for every stub, application and any other relevant paperwork from the 2 jobs I've had since 2014.

I know Rainy has answered in the affirmative of this somewhat recently as well but I'm a "check that the door is locked and stove is off twice" kind of person.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

CK's Comment
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I know this has been covered a bit before but I'm still just making 100% sure. CK, did they still only ask for 5 total years of work history if youve never had a CDL job or driving job of any kind? Tearing out the closet and garage for every stub, application and any other relevant paperwork from the 2 jobs I've had since 2014.

I know Rainy has answered in the affirmative of this somewhat recently as well but I'm a "check that the door is locked and stove is off twice" kind of person.

Five years work history if you did not drive a CMV , 10 I'd you did. I had to provide W2's for each year for every job I held, and had an issue that was resolved regarding some sort of proof for time when I owned a business. I did not yet have my 2018 W2 for my last paycheck job, so I provided my final pay stub. Any time between jobs, you will need a reference for verification - not family.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Spaceman Spiff's Comment
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Hmm ok looks like I'll be hard up on W 2s for a few years. Thanks for the info , I'm running out of reasons to worry about at least. On to the IRS

Nolan's Comment
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Hello CK! I really like your diary and thank you so much for sharing your experience. Keep it up! good-luck.gif

Spaceman Spiff's Comment
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Sorry to hijack the thread again, but re reading about the CA dmv upgrade is confusing me.

I went and passed my permit test this afternoon with air brakes, tanker, doubles/triples and haz mat endorsements. I was planning on following through with TSA and getting the haz mat background done so i could have that, TWIC and passport set for going to Salt Lake City.

We have to come back to CA and upgrade our license here? I seemingly had it in my head that they sent the data electronically to CA dmv and they mailed it out...

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Rainy 's Comment
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They do send the scores via a computer. However, you need to go back to the DMV and get your hard copy CDL.

If going for the Hazmat , you can get the endorsement on your permit and then take it to a TSA office for fingerprinting. That background check could take 30 days. Then after you pass the CDL exam, you take the TSA approval letter you get in the mail to the DMV to apply it to your CDL.

hope this helps. and congrats on passing your written exams!!!

CK...do they have a TWIC office in SLC yet or dont you know?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

CK's Comment
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There is a TSA office in SLC that does TWIC and HAZMAT fingerprinting/backgrounds. I haven't done any if that yet.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Spaceman Spiff's Comment
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3rd roommate eh? Lots of folks!

Thanks both of you for the answers. I'm fortunate to have freedom in my current job to wander about some of the day and able to get these errands done. I'll give it a shot.

Thanks Rainy. My first wait at DMV ended after 1.5 hours when my debit card declined about 6 times at the window. Had to jam out (safely) to the closest chase and grab cash from the ATM (with the same card amazingly), run back and wait all over again. Lady thought that was funny when I got assigned to her window again.

Even got in testing entertainment in the form of a guy using a phone in the testing area getting yanked out by a four foot some lady in quite good form. She was so nice to me after I passed though. Doin her job well!

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

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