Do You Have To Report The Accident After 3 Years Still In Texas?

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Big T's Comment
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You got a job as a fuel jockey following a rollover? Even if it wasn't on your mvr yet, didn't they ask if you've had any accidents?

Megamillions is up to a half billion today. Id buy a ticket if i had your luck.

Well I haul fuel and what the problem is that I request extra loads and I get them and still not making sufficient funds. I was out west making good. I understand your point. I am way more cautious than I ever been driving and I work extra as much as possible and my dispatch and manager always say that I’m there go to guy for loads. It’s just that they promised me a wage that I said I needed to make a living. Kind of like a lure tactic. I raise my kids alone and I’m the sole provider. I already told myself that I’d have to tough this out to make it back to making better wages and I’m in no hurry. My mind was set on working my way back up, but I ain’t ever giving up or gonna quit trying to better my craft or my future in this field. I know things take time. I just appreciate all the knowledge and info on how the system works on accidents. I am very lucky that I applied here before the accident. The old company I was with didn’t care about us or the equipment. I was still learning and should’ve refused to take the load, but I needed to work now I know it was the biggest mistake and sure did learn from it. Thanks for the input. I’m not an OTR man. Can’t be due to my situation.

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Jake, if you're with a large carrier already then you've already found a great place to work. What you have to work on is being the best driver possible. If you're not getting enough miles then you have to work on that. Why aren't you getting the miles? The company certainly has them available but for some reason they're not giving them to you. You have to prove yourself for a while and develop strong relationships within your company. You have to communicate really well, get appointments moved ahead, leverage those relationships to get more miles and better freight, and learn how the system works within your company.

There's a hell of a lot more to getting big miles than just sitting back on cruise control and waiting for things to happen. It's a process that takes time and a lot of work on your part. If you're with a major carrier then there's no reason to be looking elsewhere. They don't just hand out fantastic miles to anyone. You have to earn them, lobby for them, and prove you can handle them once you get em.

Your career is on life support right now. You need to figure out what the top tier drivers are doing and you're not. Follow that link to learn more. You also need to dedicate yourself to the company you're at for a minimum of one year or more. The idea that someone in your position is considering jumping ship shows that you still think it's the company that's letting you down and not the other way around. Average (or worse) drivers don't get great miles and special treatment at any company. Top Tier drivers get great miles and great treatment anywhere they go. That's the part that most drivers never figure out. It's not the company that makes or breaks a driver's career, it's the driver.

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OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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Something to remember, the more you bounce around from company to company, the less desirable you are and the less money you will make.

Higher paying companies do not want to bring on those who appear indecisive and not committed. Big Scott posted an ad recently that said "No more than two companies in the last 3 years". The pay was great and the home time excellent. But that is earned, not given.

learn to be safe. manage your time which is why i am guessing you arent making what you expected.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Jake P.'s Comment
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Thanks, Rick Been tough getting many answers and I am all about proving that it was just a accident and all. I suppose the future will tell and I’m sure it’ll be a positive outcome.

Keep a couple of things in mind.

1 - DAC is like a credit report (and is actually governed by the same rules under the FCRA) - if it shows up there, it will show up for TEN YEARS.

2 - Companies are required to CHECK REFERENCES FOR TEN YEARS for driving jobs. So regardless of when/where you apply, you will have to disclose this employer (and likely REASON FOR LEAVING: dismissed after accident). Failure to disclose is LYING ON AN APPLICATION.

So like the DAC, this employer is going to follow you around for 10 years.

3 - As others have said - ONLY DISCLOSE WHAT THEY ASK FOR on an application. If it asks for 3 years, that's what you tell them. If they point out something they found at the 5 year mark in a BG - explain it honestly, and point out that the app only called for 3 years.

4 - Again, as others have said. Getting a hire after a rollover (and you never actually stated HOW LONG you have been driving BEFORE the accident), especially SO SOON AFTER ONE YOU DISCLOSED, is a RARITY in this industry - COUNT YOUR BLESSINGS. Put in a YEAR at your present company - if for nothing else, to SHOW GRATITUDE for getting a job after recently being cut loose for a PREVENTABLE ROLLOVER. But the real (other) reason is to increase your chances of showing safe driving (as in, no more rollovers, OK) and stable work habits.

5 - You never said how much PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE you had prior to your rollover. Most newbs don't get on with small companies, so I'd suspect you had at least a little, and the small company you rolled on was not your first driving job (though I could be wrong).

6 - Talk to your DM/Dispatcher about your miles, ask what YOU CAN DO to improve your performance and get the miles you're looking for. It't not that THEY LIED (though everyone seems to "embellish" in order to attract drivers). Top miles go to top performers with seniority. You have to stick around and perform - to be a top performer with seniority.

7 - The industry has been getting a little weird recently. Some downturn of freight availability versus capacity. Prime (for example) has been doing better at driver retention, so they increased required training miles because they don't have enough trucks to put people in (for whatever reason). Last year, companies that were looking for 2 years went down to 1 because of increased freight demands (and some that were looking for 1, went down to 6 months). Now they are increasing their "previous experience" numbers back up. Can't say whether this is due to an interim freight availability issue (slowdown), better driver retention, or just more drivers available. In years past, WalMart private fleet was where everyone wanted to go - they had a 3 year accident free requirement - last year they cut benefits and other perks and are no longer the "cats meow", and the rumor is they're losing drivers an may decrease their experience requirements to keep their fleet numbers stable (or they just might be pushing drivers out, and farming the work out to other companies because it's more cost-effective than paying their own drivers more). One can never tell in this industry.

So stick around where you are for awhile. Your rollover means you have SOME DUES TO PAY, in order to demonstrate to potential future employers that you are worthy of taking a risk. Your incident will show up on DAC and Employer References for a decade, there's really no avoiding it even if the previous employer doesn't report to DAC, which is an outside company and isn't required by FMCSA Regs). Your accident WILL LIKELY show up on your FMCSA PSP though for 5 years.

Rick

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Jrod's Comment
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Had an lay over single vehicle accident thankfully no one was hurt on 02/12/2019 took a curve at 55 and it was black ice I guess. I know my fault. The owner of this small company let me go. I been with a new bigger company driving since and they do use DAC 03/02/2019 and now the accident is on my mvr and I got a citation that I got differed. Been driving since then and no more troubles. I am lucky I got the job cause I applied before the accident showed up. I told the manager about the accident and they said “I was approved before the accident happened or showed up on my MVR so I’m good to go”. August will be 6 months of clean driving. After 3 years do I still need to put this accident on my job applications or does it go away in Texas? Thanks to any who have knowledge to these questions cause I know the insurance companies are rough on this. Any extra knowledge even better. Thanks again.

2-5 years on MVR, depending on the state. Some keep it on the "record" forever with major violations or accidents.

DAC - 7 years

PSP - 2 years

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

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