Codriver Tells Safety On Me

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Junkyard Dog's Comment
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Don't stop now I just got the popcorn out of the microwave...

icecold24k's Comment
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Don't stop now I just got the popcorn out of the microwave...

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Anttjuan R.'s Comment
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It’s the same person.

Anttjuan there is no such thing as a shared account...

And stop wasting our time.

Interesting. You too have never heard of more than one person using the same account? Thus the name “Ant t Juan.” If you choose to reply that’s you guys choosing to waste your time, not me.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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So I am going to be the witch here.

His posts go like this:

In September 2015 with 1 year of driving:

I got a ticket in Illinois for improper lane usage but I also ran into a guard rail and tore it up. I landed into a grassy area before a bridge and my truck had to be towed out of there. I did not roll over but the front of it was messed up and was not drivable anymore.

He then questioned whether the officer was easy on him and stated he was immediately terminated.

On another occasion he states his annoyance at being woken up at a customer because the guard told the co driver they both needed to check in and sign a form:

So I'm a team driver and recently my codriver drove in to the receiver and the guard asked if he had a codriver and he said yes he is sleeping. Then the guard told him to wake me up so I can sign the sign-in sheet. Obviously, i was upset that I had to be awoken 5 hours into my sleep just to sign some paper. My question is, can the guard actually do that?

He states his annoyance that the codriver refuses to lie or forge his name:

If my codriver was in the sleeper and I was the one driving, I would totally sign it for him, or just tell the guard I'm solo. My codriver is unwilling to do this for me though for fear of getting in trouble

Then later he complains his company called his codriver to inform him to go for a drug test and complained:

I'm just wondering if the company is allowed to ask you for a drug test while you still don't have on-duty hours left

After not shutting down in bad weather when ordered to do so by his company, he was in jeopardy of being terminated for a second time:

So I just got word today that they will let me stay but I'll have to complete some safety videos and then be on 180 day probation

Recently he was corrected by Safety for a critical event.

My response:

I do not understand why you would want to argue your way back onto a truck with a guy you feel betrayed and lied about you. The things you stated in the past show you are not a team player, including not caring about whether your paycheck is affected by what you do. The codrivers pay is affected the same way.

I suggest you go solo.

Anttjuan R.'s Comment
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@Rainy Thanks for your input. I also went through all the postings just now and what I don’t understand is what is the problem with asking questions on here? If someone wants to know the answer to something because they don’t know it, they must sift through all the talk about feelings in order to get a concrete answer. That’s okay but include answers to the question if possible (almost none of them were answered here). Who cares if something annoys someone or not. Everyone has different perspectives and level of tolerance for things. If someone complains about something, what about it if in the end they comply anyways?

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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Anttjuan,

We love questions, and combined we have decades of experience to answer them But repeatedly you asked and when we gave you the answers, you still argued with us. Attitude in this industry is everything.

Example: The drug test request. You asked if it was legal and you were told you can remain "On Duty Not Driving" for the remainder of your 70 hour clock without violating. You repeatedly told us we were wrong. Having been a driver for 3 years, it is shocking to us you did not know this. You finally admitted you were incorrect, but you didnt get then answer you want us to give you.

Example: Asking about the security guard making you sign in. Yes, it is an insurance issue and you need to sign. Reading that, you make it sound like 5 minutes is going to kill you.

Example: Did the cop give me a break with the lane change ticket when i really had an accident and needed a tow? Uh... YES!

Reading your posts from our perspective almost makes you seem like 1) a troll or 2) like someone who poses a question just to validate his own position, and never expected a different response.

You also seem to have an "us against them" attitude like people are out to get you. The cop may have screwed you, the company who requested a drug test and the security guard were violating your rights. Now it is the codriver and company screwing you over again

See what I mean?

We hope to help driver develop better attitudes so they can thrive and succeed in the industry. Paranoia doesnt sound like fun, for you, the codriver nor the company.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Anttjuan R.'s Comment
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@Rainy I see what you mean. Questions that were posted were sincere tho and not trollsome and further questioning an answer given is just an attempt to understand something better because it might not have been too clear at times. I see many instances of concession on this end throughout the posts as well. This itself seems like an argument so I’ll stop lol. But yes, I appreciate you taking the time to point all these things out and I hope to be more neutral in my future posts instead of “me against them.”

Rob T.'s Comment
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So technically they can just brush off that he used his phone while driving solely on the basis that my intentions are petty, right?

I dont think they would brush it off but it wont help you like you seem to think. As someone else said just move on, if you really felt it was dangerous you'd have addressed it immediately. All its going to do is tarnish your image even more. Many drivers are guilty of touching their phone while driving whether its navigation, texting or checking parking on truckerpath. If my co-driver was messing around on his phone while driving I would mention how unsafe it is in a professional way. If it continued I'd be making a call to safety. The life it may save could very well be your own. You've had quite a few instances you've posted here about disciplinary action for driving behavior, instead of trying to get him in trouble focus on your driving habits. The way you're handling it makes it almost seem like you're blackmailing them.

Rob T.'s Comment
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Just to clarify I was not sayingit's acceptable, however it's a huge problem with many drivers. I pull off any time I need to look at my phone

Rick S.'s Comment
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Aside from your negative posting history here, a question:

DO YOU STILL HAVE A JOB? If so, count your blessings.

As far as the co-drivers "unsafe practices" - if you were that concerned about it, why didn't you report it sooner?

While on one hand, this situation appears to just be 2 people that just couldn't get along with each other - that escalated into a peeing match. OTOH - you go all out in left field, which to all appearances simply looks like you just want to get back at the guy.

We had a member recently that had terrible issues with a trainer (and he got off his truck) but also had evidence of unsafe driving (speeding, cell phone use, etc.), and was wondering after he got off the guys truck - if he should report the violations he witnessed.

Board was kind of divided between: it would look like sour grapes AND what if he goes out and kills someone and you could have prevented it.

Right now - you look to the company like a PROBLEM CHILD - and you're treading on thin ice. If your intention is to make this report to CYA in case you get fired and can go for a "workplace retaliation claim" (and say they fired you for reporting, instead of some obvious issues you're already on probation for) - then you're barking up the wrong tree. As soon as someone says "conspiracy" in a post like this - I start thinking PARANOID (especially in light of your track record), and if you're trying to manipulate to get back on the route (with the same guy that complained about you to get you off the truck) - WHY IN THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT TO GO BACK OUT WITH THIS GUY ANYWAY?

You need to take a step back (maybe even TWO) and examine your OWN ISSUES. If you still have a job, you may want to PROTECT THAT JOB - by taking the route they put you on, and asking safety and your DM what YOU CAN DO TO IMPROVE your performance and safety standing.

Even though sometimes, they REALLY ARE OUT TO GET YOU - it's usually not for no reason. It's real easy to try and blame others for our own shortcomings. But trucking companies will only put up with so much crap, before they bounce you down the road. And numerous safety issues plus a "not eligible for rehire", will effectively end your career - regardless of how many years you have out there.

Rick

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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