Parking Lot Incidents,no Ticket?

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LAnn's Comment
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Incidents vs.accidents, DOT not involved

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Joseph I.'s Comment
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More info please. What is the question?

LAnn's Comment
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I've only been driving a couple of years for a fairly large carrier. There were two times in a parking lot I had hit a parked truck, then--- a corner of a trailer and the landing gear got bent slightly enough to slide gracefully down like melting butter.No damage to freight in either case.Not significant damage to my own trailer. No police needed at Brewery(just other parked trailer damage), just guard noted all. Still ...I called in to Safety in both cases...When Police arrived at my situation when I called them , I'd hit the corner of a drivers bumper, definitely my fault, in fear....a driver threatened to shoot me....He told me I better back up at a TA so HE could finish rounding the corner, not allow me to finish rounding corner. Policeman said I wasn't going to be cited for anything and wouldn't let me find driver, gone probably. Then curiously, a third "accident" this year that never occurred,..was a bobtailed driver in a corner(he stayed in corner 4 days) who falsely accused me of backing into his truck chrome --said he was calling my Carrier cuz he didn't like my 'attitude'....huh?!? Sure enough, without camera or witnesses he called them. I took it that it was impossible because there was a hydrant between us....not even close.... When Policeman arrived at TA in Troy, Illinois he asked the driver for proof, --there was a small crease in his chrome but tiny and at same level of every other trailer in the world. My company fired me 30 days later for not reporting this faux " accident". Now I'm trying to get a job and due to 3 "Accidents" nobody wants to look at me! NEVER A SPEEDING ticket, moving violations on a highway, failed inspection in two years! Since these these 3 were off the highway but should I put that third FAUX incident/accident down? I'm confused what constitutes incident VS. Accident in these cases. Third one is preventing a job now.. But on Tenstreet, I shot myself in foot the company that hired me next said! Guy hiring me said,"Lots of drivers make same error in putting down every little thing." Had to quit working for them --they switched me to night driving--just hated reefer night docks etc. Now that I'm filling out an application for a" NON Hireright " user --small family company --- what should I be honestly saying about the FAUX incident/accident??? Please help, ...was told I was too honest!! Now what? Huh! Omg.....

Bobtail:

"Bobtailing" means you are driving a tractor without a trailer attached.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

Red Beard 's Comment
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Any accidents you've had with a year of todays date that make it on to your record are going to be accompanied by violation points that are multiplied by 3. I'm assuming here, but it sounds line the faux 3rd incident wasnt faux to the reporting officer. If a report was filed by the officer then there was a citation associated.

Also, any time damage is caused by a truck or trailer, it is going to be cited as a moving violation. If you get more than one moving violation, it gets very expensive to cover a driver on insurance. This is why they have the multiple of 3 for the 1st year after a violation. It's a money making strategy for insurance companies, in my opinion. ;-) This makes it difficult for us drivers none the less.

There are ways to go about getting the violations on your license removed, but it is going to cost you money to hire representation.

If you are uncomfortable in tight spaces, try getting into the truck stops earlier when note room is available. These times vary depending on the truck stop. They have apps now that give you an idea of peak times for the lot in question. You can also search for more "unknown" spots that may be a little further off the big road, but are more space friendly for the full rig. I typically try and find these spots during my trip plan. You can use apps and maps to scope these places out pretty easy. Hope this helps. Good luck.

Joseph I.'s Comment
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As far as finding easier parking spots, if that is the concern, I find of coarse earlier is always better. But the No. 1 thing for me is if I am late and know the big national truck stops with the best "amenities" are going to be full up, at least through the middle of the country the small stops a only a few spots are almost always easiest to find a spot.

Rubber Duck's Comment
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If I was certain that someone lied about me hitting them then I would do this. I’d get a copy of my dac report to see if it’s on there. If not I’d pretend it never happened because it didn’t.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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If a report was filed by the officer then there was a citation associated.

Not true in all states. In NJ the police report is a matter of documentation, no citation required. I hit a parked car in my personal vehicle (many many moons ago), and there was no ticket. The officer documented i admitting hitting the vehicle and the damage was under $500. No ticket issued.

I would get a copy of the police report. it should say the witness stated there was damage, but no video. It will also say you denied it.

Also pull a copy of your DAC and see what is on it.

go.from.there.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

LAnn's Comment
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In the "faux" accident I had the Policeman say to me,"There is nothing I can say about you having done anything wrong,and I'm not citing you for anything, but if your company gives you a hard time just have them call I'm not writing any ticket for you." I'm scared to admit to any accident that never happened and also not to admit to my alleged guilt, is this a plea deal without a court sentencing? Wow... I am told Hireright is the synonym for DAC. In my own words I saw what I wrote bit I did nothing wrong, basically my Carrier threw me under the bus and accused me without evidence.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

LAnn's Comment
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The Hireright report had no accidents listed on it until I myself filled out an application on line with Tenstreet!! The new Carrier that hired me a few weeks later asked me why I filled my record up when it wasn't necessary because he called my Carrier and they listed me as being let go for Misconduct,....I asked and they said because I didn't call in the accident that never happened. I didn't want to be a victim of insurance fraud or participate in it either, that's why I've never admitted to something I didn't do. So do I admit to fraud to align with a false accident?! I always thought it's wrong to lie. My company paid out to a driver last year for taking his mirror off and he never called police or took any pictures! They never even told me where it supposedly happened...so I asked them to please remove it and they did...

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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This is interesting. You were not terminated for an accident. You were terminated for failing to report "something" that could potentially cost the company money. Had you told the company, they would have retrieved the police report indicating that you were not cited and no evidence of you doing it was obtained. You fail3d to get a copy of the report that could prove your case for future employers i woukd try to get a copy of that police report.

Under those circumstances, even the company does not acknowledge an accident. They basically said they dont trust you.

Accident or not... having "misconduct" on your DAC is going to lead to you explaining yourself.

A guy claimed i backed into his trailer. My tail popped open after i closed it, and the tail MIGHT have touched the trailer in the space behind me. After i parked, the other driver who i saw doing a PTI came yelling at me. there was no damage, no dirt mark on his trailer door.... nothing. i still notified safety.

This is a lesson to all of us. Protect yourself no matter what.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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