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Dan F.'s Comment
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Roehl does a typological profile and questionnaire

I can guarantee you that some of his answers put him in a group that the insurance company list as high risk.

It probably has to do with no work history. If I am reading you correctly you have not worked in almost a deacde?

J.D.'s Comment
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Optical, you still "here"? I know it's been over a week and you said you didn't have much time. If you're still interested, well a similar family situation has ended for me so I wanted to encourage you with what happened in my case. Any way you have time to get a grant or other means to pay for and go through a private school? I did this and even though "Covenant" gave me a pre-hire letter for the school (not at all connected to the school), they then turned me down soon after while I was in the program, saying, sorry but I didn't have enough continuous employment. (Took care of my dad with Parkinson's for 5 years till he died last fall.) But then they kept sending me mass form-letter emails courting me, so I finally wrote them back... Reminded the recruiter how I'd been turned down and how lame the reason felt, questioning why it was dis-qualifying for a guy to temporarily live off years of hard-earned savings and also be paid by his father to be his caregiver and POA. She wrote back that basically I was now a good candidate because they had since changed their policy on that. Covenant is big enough to have a lot of location options, and I think they'd have drivers who work out of Ohio with them, but am not sure. And maybe you need to speed through a company-school program to start getting paid sooner than the private route, so they may not be be an option for you.

Point being though, I've done some good research (especially talking a lot with my school's smart Placement Director), and it seems clear this is far from the only company getting more flexible in that way. My sense is that you should be able to find one a co. that'll be just fine with "taking a chance" on you, especially with you obviously able to write up your situation story in a convincing fashion...maybe able to provide some back-up evidence if need be. (Sounds like maybe even a document signed by my dad could have made a difference at some places, but now seems unnecessary as I'm about to start with a local company.)

So in short, I think this lack-of-continuous-employment criterion is not as important or solid these days with so many companies that are understandably more desperate for good drivers who'll last. There's certainly no such logical correlation with me which makes me less suitable...if anything the opposite; so if that's the case with you too, I'd say definitely hang in there. And if you've already had your breakthrough, please post an update. --E.Z.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

K.O. & Jack-Attack's Comment
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Hey guys,

I've been lurking around the forums and the information provided here for about a week or two now, and I've found myself at kind of a loss currently. My situation doesn't seem to be a unique one, but it seems that it's something that is holding me back on moving forward.

So, for the past 9-10 years I've been living with and taking care of my Grandparents. I first moved in to help take care of my Grandfather, who had Cerebral Ataxia(a degenerative disease in his brain that affected his motor functions), and when he passed I stayed to help my Grandmother as she was getting worse and couldn't do basic chores around the house. Recently she was diagnosed with a form of demetia and epilepsy and is now moving into assisted living. With this sudden of news, we're losing the apartment, so I'd like to finally take the step to head out onto the road and drive.

I applied to Prime first and got turned down(all I was told was that they had better qualified applicants), which I understand. I then applied for Roehl's, application got accepted, spoke with the recruiter and we went over my application, where I was told that the next step was to wait for my driving record, this was 2 days ago. Today I woke up to an email saying they are unable to proceed with my application due to the responses I gave against the requirements of the role. They didn't tell me any other specifics or anything. So, I don't know if it's even worth trying to apply again for another company or just give up and tack it up as something I'll never do. I don't have much time, and I'm in kind of a scramble mode to get something going.

Any advice is more than welcome and thank you.

I've been going through literally dozens of them for weeks now. It's always one thing different from the next. While my dog is an esa for my condition, I've been retaining this information because I want to go with a pet-friendly company, instead of forcing the company where it would strain our employee-employer relationship.

If I didn't have my dog, I would have been accepted weeks ago within 1-2 weeks of first filling out applications. If you don't have a dog, then you have a much better and quicker process in than I do. I just got done going through this with my friend who I was helping get into Trucking along with me.

Keep applying and don't give up. If you have gaps in your work history, make something up and tell them you were under the table and ask him if that's going to be a problem not being contract for that employment. I had a friend about three or four years ago that did the same thing with Swift yeah a couple months Gap in his work history and he put down he was working for a friend and he got in.

There are lots and lots and lots of options available to you if you do not have a pet like me in my situation. the first thing you should do is apply here on trucking truth or paid CDL training and they'll send it out to a handful of companies that's probably the easiest way for you. Just don't give up you have a lot better chance than me and I found two companies that are willing to take me so if I can do it you can do it too.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Scott M's Comment
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That’s a falsehood. Don’t do that. When they find out, you’re fired. The employer Is going to trust u with $200k plus worth of equipment and product. No employer would want an employee like that.

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Keep applying and don't give up. If you have gaps in your work history, make something up and tell them you were under the table and ask him if that's going to be a problem not being contract for

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Scott M's Comment
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It would also show up on your DAC- which is a report that every future employer could see. If a person could get a job with a poor paying carrier- that would be better than a falsehood.

That’s a falsehood. Don’t do that. When they find out, you’re fired. The employer Is going to trust u with $200k plus worth of equipment and product. No employer would want an employee like that.

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Keep applying and don't give up. If you have gaps in your work history, make something up and tell them you were under the table and ask him if that's going to be a problem not being contract for

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DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

PackRat's Comment
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That’s a falsehood. Don’t do that. When they find out, you’re fired. The employer Is going to trust u with $200k plus worth of equipment and product. No employer would want an employee like that.

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Keep applying and don't give up. If you have gaps in your work history, make something up and tell them you were under the table and ask him if that's going to be a problem not being contract for

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Exactly! Don't do that. Not to mention it's against the law by providing false information when filling out the application.

K.O. continues to post and makes it obvious that he has very little grasp on the industry, at this point anyway.

Optical's Comment
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Sir:

In what area of Ohio do you live? I wonder what would happen if you made an appointment for a face-to-face meeting with the recruiter/HR representative of a near-by trucking company. As one who has done my (very) fair share of hiring I’ve always been more impressed with those who reached out for in person contact rather than using the internet. I’m new here, and I’m new to trucking, so email may simply be the way that things will be done as it relates to contact, applying and hiring. Just my two cents worth.

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I'm around Columbus myself. It seems email and phone is the more the way it's done from what I've been seeing anyway.

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Haya, Optical ~

Bumping this for ya .... any updates ?!?

Wish you well, from a fellow Buckeye ~!!!

Anne :)

Sorry for this late reply, but I do have an update. I put in a few applications to some various companies(Wilson Logistics, C.R. England, and CRST). I spoke with their respective recruiters, and have today gotten absolute confirmation that I'll be heading to training for CRST. The experience with Roehl's taught me to not get my hopes up TOO early, so I didn't want to say anything until I got absolute confirmation. I have gotten that this morning. I'll be heading to Colorado, probably on the 25th to start training on the 26th. With my previous work history, I was still nervous about what documents to bring with me, and that was the confirmation I got this morning. All I need to bring is my SS card, license, and birth certificate. I'm excited, nervous, and relieved all at the same time for this new chapter in a life that's already experienced a lot. I can't wait to get out there.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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Sir:

In what area of Ohio do you live? I wonder what would happen if you made an appointment for a face-to-face meeting with the recruiter/HR representative of a near-by trucking company. As one who has done my (very) fair share of hiring I’ve always been more impressed with those who reached out for in person contact rather than using the internet. I’m new here, and I’m new to trucking, so email may simply be the way that things will be done as it relates to contact, applying and hiring. Just my two cents worth.

Hi. Insurance companies charge a fortune for new drivers. Therefore most of the training companies are over the road mega carriers who are self insured. Walking into these places is not the normal path because they hired from all over the country but usually have only a few training centers throughout.

Over The Road:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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