My Update With Prime Inc.

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Anchorman's Comment
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funny trucking pictures Prime truck loses tanker trailer where every day is Monday

Free Spirit ( AKA #Hashta's Comment
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Hey Mongo and Roadkill...I'm at Prime right now with Jeff..he is here completing his upgrade and waiting for our truck...I will have a Prime visitor badge on..the difference is the chain and the background is gray...if you see me please do not hesitate to say hi!! smile.gif

Roadkill (aka:Guy DeCou)'s Comment
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Hey Mongo and Roadkill...I'm at Prime right now with Jeff..he is here completing his upgrade and waiting for our truck...I will have a Prime visitor badge on..the difference is the chain and the background is gray...if you see me please do not hesitate to say hi!! smile.gif

Hey Freespirit. Im in PSD right now. Im enjoying it but we're pretty slammed with the number of new students. Almost 100 in my class alone. If i see you i will certainly say hi. If you see me please say hi,too.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
Ken C.'s Comment
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Wow...how do they manage to teach/deal with a 100 new boots all at once...? I was wanting to go to a smaller school/classes but Prime is on my SHORT SHORT list because of the LW trucks and extra nickel per mile but mostly because I think they have more to offer in terms of freight so I can stay put for long time. How many of the current class are likely to make it to the finish line...?

Roadkill (aka:Guy DeCou)'s Comment
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Wow...how do they manage to teach/deal with a 100 new boots all at once...? I was wanting to go to a smaller school/classes but Prime is on my SHORT SHORT list because of the LW trucks and extra nickel per mile but mostly because I think they have more to offer in terms of freight so I can stay put for long time. How many of the current class are likely to make it to the finish line...?

Thanks for the question. My understanding is that the situation with the high number of new students is mainly due to the bad weather recently. A lot of people couldnt get here when they were supposed to and once the roads cleared and buses started running it was all hands on deck. My understanding is the usual class number is about 40-60 students per orientation class. Prime is being good about dealing with this overflow but we have students from orientation classes from two weeks ago still waiting on instructors so its a first come-first served basis so all of us FNG's are just having to suck it up and be patient. This is already starting to take its toll on some people who are starting to complain quite vocally regardless of who is around. I dont expext those persons to be here much longer. Im especially happy i got my permit and DOT before i got here because other than the first day of getting my U/A, physical and interview and finishing up my cbt by 10 am yesterday morning i have had LOADS of free time. Today we started intro to pre trip. I can tell you this. If i had not spent the better part of the last year studying the pretrip guide i would be just as lost as most of the people in my class. But im not. I know what the instructor is talking about the first time he says it. Now i dont say that to brag on my self. I say that to highlight what a great learning tool we have here. As far as how many students do i expect to make it. I think a liberal number would be about 50%. There are people here who are just not cut out for this lifestyle. You can see it already. Theyre either ****ing amd moaning about having to stand in line for two hours for a pee test or their complaining because we arent already on a truck and driving. Its obvious the majority of them did NO research about how Prime runs their training program. All they saw was rookie driver gets paid $.38 a mile. And others simply dont have the literate skills to pass the permit test. Its perplexing to see how many people couldnt even follow simple instructions on how to properly fill out the mountain of paperwork we had to get through. So, no i dont think many of them are going to be here by the end of the week for the reasons ive listed and other reasons. I mean,there were guys that came to school and had to make a stop in Colorado. There was a pot shop near the bus station. Do you know what these idiots did??? Went and got high. Why?? Because it was legal to do so in Colorado. Guess who is going to be the first guys out the door when the U/A results come back?? My other piece of advice is this. If you are desperate for money and need to start earning now, Dont come to Prime.I say that not to be mean, but again you will not start earning money until you are hired. You will not be hired until you pass your CDL. You will not even get the opportunity to test for your CDL for 4-6weeks. Sorry for the long winded answer to your short question but i hope its been helpful.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Jopa's Comment
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Sorry for the long winded answer to your short question but I hope its been helpful.

Roadkill, That was VERY helpful as I have committed to the class starting the 31st of this month at Prime. Hope the logjam is somewhat cleared out by that time. Are you documenting your experiences with the training yet? I'd love to follow along. Ain't it a shame how ignorant and just plain untaught so many people are? And getting high in Colorado just cuz you can, that's just too dumb for words!!

Stephen E. Birchsmile.gif

Ken C.'s Comment
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Hey Roadkill, That was a perfect reply to my question and I'm glad you took the time to give Us the run down..I can't believe some people will be so stupid as to Smoke Weed before going in for a pee test, that's like chugging the rest of your beer right before the Cop whose pulling you over for speeding comes up to the car window and asks to see you DL, Registration and Proof of Insurance. Good Luck and keep us informed plus if you can share any info on the different types of training & opportunities for each of the divisions that Prime has that would be cool.

Ken

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Roadkill (aka:Guy DeCou)'s Comment
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I decided not to document my orientation time just mainly due to the fact that its been so well documented already. This number of students isnt typical and i would guess that by the end of the month it should be a little more back to normal. I WILL however give ANYONE who is set on coming to PRIME this advice. Get your permit BEFORE you get on that bus. Go to your local physician and get a DOT physical before you get your permit. Guys and gals, I cannot tell you how much stress this will take off of your already stressful period here during your orientation. We lost at least 25 students today because they could not pass their permit tests. And you have three tries to pass and these guys and gals simply could not cram in enough knowledge on top of everything else that was going on to absorb it all. Do yourselves a favor and start studying now if you haven't already. If you have that permit and you self certify which means you get a DOT medical card before you take and pass your permit exam you will be MILES ahead of those that dont. Orientation will be a cakewalk for you. If you get your physical and permit before you come to Prime you will not be required to transfer your permit to Missouri. If you dont you will have to waste time going to the dmv to have it done and spending money needlessly.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Ken C.'s Comment
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Thanks for the Info...I know it's asking a lot but if you can keep us informed of the areas other New Students are having trouble with maybe we can avoid them ourselves...Like you say get the DOT physical and Permit, that makes sense to me. I'm going back through the High Road Training again and working on my weaker areas so that when it's time for me to go and take my Permit Test I'll be 100% ready.

Good Luck and Have a Great Weekend...Oh by the way hows the Prime School laid out..? Would they let you take pic's and show us the class rooms, the backing area & driving track..I know you have a lot on your mind but was just curious and wanted to ask

Thanks Ken

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Ray F. (aka. Mongo)'s Comment
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Heard from my fleet manager I won't get back to Springfield til around the 19th . I am sscheduled to test on the 21st.

Fleet Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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