Roehl Transport--Get Your Cdl Program

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David K.'s Comment
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Days 4 & 5 June 4-5 In the morning of June 4th, we started driving on city streets and practicing turns. In the afternoon, we went back to backing. On Saturday, we had a half day of in-class instructions. I spent the rest of Saturday and Sunday working through about 40 videos that we were assigned to watch.

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Days 4 & 5 June 4-5 In the morning of June 4th, we started driving on city streets and practicing turns. In the afternoon, we went back to backing. On Saturday, we had a half day of in-class instructions. I spent the rest of Saturday and Sunday working through about 40 videos that we were assigned to watch.

David, it really sounds like you are 'sailing' right along. (Just don't haul sailboat fuel, esp to NYC..even if they beg!! LoL....)

Seriously, I commend you, and your 'go to' attitude, ' man !!

I'm following; best wishes!

~ Anne ~

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

David K.'s Comment
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Thanks, Anne. Week 2, June 7-8. This week, we are alternating between one day of road driving and one day of backing. One person in our group quit, so now we are down to five. Roehl fired one person in another group because he was not able to consistently perform the backing maneuvers.

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Roehl fired one person in another group because he was not able to consistently perform the backing maneuvers.

David, don't you think that is an odd reason to fire a person in training? Who gave you that information? Did that come directly from some of Roehl's personnel? If you only heard it from some other students, I don't recommend repeating it.

If it's true, each of you should be in fear of being fired. Good grief man, you've only been there a week! I doubt any of you are "consistently" performing anything at this point. That is why you are in training. I can assure you there was more to that person's removal than you know about or should be sharing in your diary.

David K.'s Comment
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Roehl fired one person in another group because he was not able to consistently perform the backing maneuvers.

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David, don't you think that is an odd reason to fire a person in training? Who gave you that information? Did that come directly from some of Roehl's personnel? If you only heard it from some other students, I don't recommend repeating it.

Old School, yes, it is true that I do know for certain the reason that Roehl decided to fire that person, but I talked with that person, his trainer, the other people in his group, and other trainers, and without exception, all of them discussed backing as the problem. He had a day or two of extra training and that was it. He was trying, but he was not improving fast enough. And yes, we are only a few days into the program, but that's all the time that we have to demonstrate our capacity to learn to drive heavy-duty trucks, as novice drivers. If Roehl does not believe that a trainee has a very high probability of passing the CDL driving test after less than three weeks of training, then that trainee will not be allowed to take the test as a Roehl employee. One trainer that I spoke with explained that everyone that he sent to test passed the test. That is a 100% pass rate. And one of the reasons for that success rate, according to the trainer, is that people who cannot demonstrate the capacity to pass the test are not allowed to take the test as a Roehl employee.

And yes, we all have different levels of fear of being fired in the first couple of weeks. We see it happen. The best novice driver in our group is taking vacation time from his previous employer and has not officially left that job, just in case the Roehl job does not work out (his explanation, not mine).

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
David K.'s Comment
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Week 2, Wednesday, June 9th. Today, our group practiced pre-trips and backing. The trainers switched up the backing so that we were backing from a different direction through a different set of cones. I managed to pull that off successfully, initially, but at the end of the day, I was making three pull-ups simply for a straight back, when I was not doing any pull-ups before that. My problem may be simply a matter of overthinking the change-up. However, if I cannot get back on pace tomorrow, my career at Roehl likely will be a short one. They will not tolerate much backwards movement in skills development.

David K.'s Comment
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Week 2, Thursday, June 10th. This morning, we practiced our pre-trip inspection; then, we spent a few hours driving through an industrial area with many difficult turns. Some of those turns would have been near impossible for me, or any novice driver, without guidance from the instructor.

After lunch, we practiced backing. I was able to complete the maneuvers well enough to put me back on pace with the program. The instructor told me that I had made great improvement. So I was glad to have finished the day with success. Tomorrow, however, will be another day with new challenges to meet. I am scheduled to take the CDL test on Friday, June 18th, but if at any time, between now and then, the instructor believes that I am not prepared to pass the test, he can cancel my test.

Pre-trip Inspection:

A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.

Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
David K.'s Comment
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Week 2, Friday, June 11th. In the morning, we practiced the in-cab part of the pre-trip, including the complete air leak test. After that, we spent the rest of the day working on the alley dock backing maneuver. The instructors gradually reduced their level of involvement in training, and in the end, they were only correcting our mistakes, when we made them. Most of our group was progressively improving on the alley back procedure. I am on-pace with the skills development schedule.

The two guys who were in their third week, the group that is one week ahead of us, tested today. Both of them passed and received their CDL. Our group is the second-week group, now. So next week, we move to the third-week group, and we will have a few days to continue training before we take the CDL test at the end of next week. We started with six people in our group. We are down to five. Before test day, we could be down to four or fewer. Although, I hope that all five of us will continue on successfully.

As long as I can remain on pace with the skills development expectations, I think that I will be in a good position to pass the test. At this stage in the training, any regression in skills development would be difficult to overcome, so everyday I must be able to demonstrate that I can retain what I have learned and further demonstrate some improvement upon that. The Roehl GYCDL program is a fast-paced program. The first day of class is only 17 days from the last day of testing. For our group, today, was ten days from the first day, but that first day seems like a long time ago. In seven days, I will test, which I expect will seem like a long time from today.

Over the weekend, I intend to have the pre-trip fully memorized. Next week, I expect to continue development of my backing and driving skills, taking each day as new challenge, and not taking prior days' success as a reason to relax.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Larry T.'s Comment
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I was in Roehl's gycdl program for 2 weeks. I came into an agreement with the program manager to be fired for failed training due to backing. Made it sound like it was a take it or leave it deal. I made no progress with backing at all by the end of the second week.

Great company and management. The Pm flat out asked me, What can I do to help? I felt I had to be honest. Had over 20 hours of backing. What more could they do? Having never driven any vehicle with a trailer before in my life was just to much for me. I get it, they're goal is to get you out on the road in a month making them money. I just feel maybe simulator time or 28' trailers may be better for us with backing issues.

Now I'm at a local school, backing atv's with small trailers. Let s see if I can make it now. lol

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Week 2, Friday, June 11th. In the morning, we practiced the in-cab part of the pre-trip, including the complete air leak test. After that, we spent the rest of the day working on the alley dock backing maneuver. The instructors gradually reduced their level of involvement in training, and in the end, they were only correcting our mistakes, when we made them. Most of our group was progressively improving on the alley back procedure. I am on-pace with the skills development schedule.

The two guys who were in their third week, the group that is one week ahead of us, tested today. Both of them passed and received their CDL. Our group is the second-week group, now. So next week, we move to the third-week group, and we will have a few days to continue training before we take the CDL test at the end of next week. We started with six people in our group. We are down to five. Before test day, we could be down to four or fewer. Although, I hope that all five of us will continue on successfully.

As long as I can remain on pace with the skills development expectations, I think that I will be in a good position to pass the test. At this stage in the training, any regression in skills development would be difficult to overcome, so everyday I must be able to demonstrate that I can retain what I have learned and further demonstrate some improvement upon that. The Roehl GYCDL program is a fast-paced program. The first day of class is only 17 days from the last day of testing. For our group, today, was ten days from the first day, but that first day seems like a long time ago. In seven days, I will test, which I expect will seem like a long time from today.

Over the weekend, I intend to have the pre-trip fully memorized. Next week, I expect to continue development of my backing and driving skills, taking each day as new challenge, and not taking prior days' success as a reason to relax.

Still following and cheering you on, Good Sir. Awaiting updates, as you can!! Gonna be a great week for you... I know it.

I was in Roehl's gycdl program for 2 weeks. I came into an agreement with the program manager to be fired for failed training due to backing. Made it sound like it was a take it or leave it deal. I made no progress with backing at all by the end of the second week.

Great company and management. The Pm flat out asked me, What can I do to help? I felt I had to be honest. Had over 20 hours of backing. What more could they do? Having never driven any vehicle with a trailer before in my life was just to much for me. I get it, they're goal is to get you out on the road in a month making them money. I just feel maybe simulator time or 28' trailers may be better for us with backing issues.

Now I'm at a local school, backing atv's with small trailers. Let s see if I can make it now. lol

I / we wish YOU well in YOUR endeavors, also.

Start a thread about YOUR schooling and progress, to help future readers, if you have time. (We LOVE that stuff here at TT !!!)

Best wishes;

~ Anne ~

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

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