Is It To Early To Get My Permit?

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Bush Country's Comment
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Texas is the only state I know of which requires additional information. I'd be curious if anyone knows of another state that does that.

I'm curious too. Doesn't Florida have some rule about trailer axles not being spread? Seems like I read about that on this site.....somewhere.

Old School's Comment
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Doesn't Florida have some rule about trailer axles not being spread? Seems like I read about that on this site.....somewhere.

Each state has their own set of rules about trailer axles. Often it is a measurement that they want you to abide by from the kingpin to your rearmost axle. That is the situation in Florida. Some flatbed trailers are set up in such a way that when their axles are spread out they exceed that length. That's why you have read drivers talking about closing them up like a set of tandems. They are merely complying with that length requirement. If their trailer cannot be set in compliance they can purchase a special permit allowing them to travel in Florida.

Those rules about kingpins, axles, bridge laws etc. are all found in the Rand McNally Motor Carriers Atlas. They are not additional sections in the state's CDL manual.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Anne A. (and sometimes To's Comment
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Texas is the only state I know of which requires additional information. I'd be curious if anyone knows of another state that does that.

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I'm curious too. Doesn't Florida have some rule about trailer axles not being spread? Seems like I read about that on this site.....somewhere.

Yeah, I knew about the various axle laws in different states; that's not really pertinent in getting the CDLP, is it?

Doesn't NY State have some coil laws, tho ?!?

~ Anne ~

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Anne A. (and sometimes To's Comment
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Texas is the only state I know of which requires additional information. I'd be curious if anyone knows of another state that does that.

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I'm curious too. Doesn't Florida have some rule about trailer axles not being spread? Seems like I read about that on this site.....somewhere.

Hay Bush Country !!

Are you still/finally going with Knight, then??

~ Anne ~

ps: No takers on the NY rules/laws/coil something that the actual state manual is needed for? Errol V. ?!?

I know I heard/read this; will look into, something about an extra endorsement needed in NY.

Bush Country's Comment
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Texas is the only state I know of which requires additional information. I'd be curious if anyone knows of another state that does that.

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I'm curious too. Doesn't Florida have some rule about trailer axles not being spread? Seems like I read about that on this site.....somewhere.

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Hay Bush Country !!

Are you still/finally going with Knight, then??

~ Anne ~

ps: No takers on the NY rules/laws/coil something that the actual state manual is needed for? Errol V. ?!?

I know I heard/read this; will look into, something about an extra endorsement needed in NY.

Hi Anne -

Scheduled to start with Knight on the 28th. Not sure if I'll do a training diary. Kinda hard to follow in the footsteps of Davy A.'s masterpiece!

But (there's always a but...)

My wife and I have both been unemployed because of the Red Death. I've not worked since March last year. Mrs. Country got laid off in February this year. She's had three solid interviews in the past few weeks, with two of them involving relocation should she get either job. The relo would be the wrench thrown in the plan, causing a delay, but not cancelling it. I think it's unreasonable of me to expect her to move a household, three cats, and three dogs without me.

The way I figure it is that a delay would give me more time to study the pre-trip!

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