Trucking School Illegally Put I Attended

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Ryan Z.'s Comment
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Ill try to make this as short and sweet as possible. I made an apmnt at a school here in FL to take a 3rd party test. Well i?never paid and i never went. I decided I was going to go with Wilson Logistics training program since I had my CDL permit and Med card. I got a call today saying that I was disqualified because I went to another school. Clearly I did not. When Wilson did their background report not only did it say I attended their school but that I failed the pretrip TWICE. Ive never set foot on thats school grouds. Only made an appointment.

So my question is: What should I do and is there any recourse for fraudulently altering a national database the way they did. They have now prevented me from going to any other school or company based training program. The have basically ruined my career before its started.

Ive been told I ha e a good lawsuit on my hands but I wanted to hear from some experienced people first. Please yall, anything helps.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

PJ's Comment
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Gotta say this is a first!! The only possible reason I can think for them to do that is if they are getting subsidy money on a per head basis. If so that can lead to big problems for them. That would be fraud charges.

They have to be state licensed and/or certified. I would see if the state has a investigation division that deals with schools. Different states have different names but the office that issues drivers licesne’s should be able to point you in a direction.

Please keep us posted on how this goes!!

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Ill try to make this as short and sweet as possible. I made an apmnt at a school here in FL to take a 3rd party test. Well i?never paid and i never went. I decided I was going to go with Wilson Logistics training program since I had my CDL permit and Med card. I got a call today saying that I was disqualified because I went to another school. Clearly I did not. When Wilson did their background report not only did it say I attended their school but that I failed the pretrip TWICE. Ive never set foot on thats school grouds. Only made an appointment.

So my question is: What should I do and is there any recourse for fraudulently altering a national database the way they did. They have now prevented me from going to any other school or company based training program. The have basically ruined my career before its started.

Ive been told I have a good lawsuit on my hands but I wanted to hear from some experienced people first. Please yall, anything helps.

PJ 'nailed it.' He's a multi'company driver, turned O/O.

Seriously, a 3rd party tester . ?!?!? WHO TRAINED YOU?!? IS LOS'LOBOS BACK, Y'ALL ????? Anyone remember THEM?

Contact Hire Right and get a FREE copy of your DAC.

Contact your LOCAL DMV (or state,) and get an abstract.

If all else yields nada,

Contact Legalshield.com << they are big in FL; I grew up there.

Keep us in the loop! Many 'one post wonders' get SO MANY replies, and never care to reply; wasting our moderators' time and hours/miles on the road. We all work for free, to the common good .. here.

Best wishes,

~ Anne ~

ps: Look at Scott (E?'s) post about Stevens' a couple weeks' back. If YOU COME BACK .. 'Momma Anne' will add links. It's time consuming. For now, go with what PJ and I recommend... ttys!

pps:

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE RECOMMEND >>> Company Sponsored TRAINING! Might not be too late; may be your only option.

Apply For Paid CDL Training

Paid CDL Training Programs

ppps: Be careful of the 'boyz' on other common areas on the i'net.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Company Sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Ryan Z.'s Comment
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Well you see i was going to company sponsored training. Everything was fine and good to go until my processor at Wilson called and said they were going to have to pass on me because I already attended a CDL school. I told them and pleaded with them about how that cannot be and she said it popped up. What it popped up under is what im trying to figure out today and get a copy of that particular record. Heres another kicker. On my DAC is shows nothing. Its blank. Due to the fact i only have my CLP right now it should be blank. So they reported it to some other database and Wilson found out about it. Either way i will be getting an attorney involved. And your thought was the same as mine. They might be getting subsidized payments or something. Either way. Their actions are fraud and have caused me to not get on with 3 companies now. Im going to call wilson back today and see what reporting agency or database they used and if they can send a copy over. Then ill ask the trucking school why they did what they did. I need a good florida attorney for this because I will be seeking damages to my reputation and wages for at least 3 years that i would have gotten. Thanks for your guys help.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Company Sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

Ryan Z.'s Comment
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And yea. Down here n Fl the DMV doesnt Conduct CDL A tests. So they have state approved sites. This trucking school was one of them. I had been practicing for 2 months and figured id go take my test. My moms a O/O very good one at that. But instead of doing that I was going to go to Wilson Logistics Paid CDL program becuz i felt more comfortable with that. It was a win win. No chance on losing 450 bucks on a failed test. Well i never went. Never stepped foot there at all.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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And yea. Down here n Fl the DMV doesnt Conduct CDL A tests. So they have state approved sites. This trucking school was one of them. I had been practicing for 2 months and figured id go take my test. My moms a O/O very good one at that. But instead of doing that I was going to go to Wilson Logistics Paid CDL program becuz i felt more comfortable with that. It was a win win. No chance on losing 450 bucks on a failed test. Well i never went. Never stepped foot there at all.

Hay Ryan;

I 'grew up' in Florida; I know. They are 'odd' like that. Have a couple ideas & questions, for you:

1.) When you pull up your DMV abstract on your PC . . . WHAT CLASS does it state your license as being?

2.) Did you go to 'school' (non school?) on a WIOA grant?

3.) Care to 'share' the location/name of such school? (I'm a Doxxer, LoL!)

4.) You could 'try' to check the clearinghouse. It 'should' have 'nada' on you, but ... worth a 'look see!' Clearinghouse Link

Hope we can help, somehow!

~ Anne ~

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

WIOA:

WIOA - Workforce Innovation & Opportunity Act (aka WIA)

Formerly known as the Workforce Investment Act (WIA), the WIOA was established in 1998 to prepare youth, adults and dislocated workers for entry and reentry into the workforce. WIOA training funds are designed to serve laid-off individuals, older youth and adults who are in need of training to enter or reenter the labor market. A lot of truck drivers get funding for their CDL training through WIOA.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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And yea. Down here n Fl the DMV doesnt Conduct CDL A tests. So they have state approved sites. This trucking school was one of them. I had been practicing for 2 months and figured id go take my test. My moms a O/O very good one at that. But instead of doing that I was going to go to Wilson Logistics Paid CDL program becuz i felt more comfortable with that. It was a win win. No chance on losing 450 bucks on a failed test. Well i never went. Never stepped foot there at all.

Any updates?

Stuff like this (your conundrum) actually helps us, be the helpful community, that we are.

Hope SO, Ryan!

~ Anne ~

ps: Armellini (in Jax, I believe...) might work with you!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Chris P.'s Comment
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I wonder if my career is ruined before it ever started too, heh. I attended truck driving school, but I couldn't pass at the DMV. I was going to get more training, but shenanigans happened, I got angry over some lies and burned some bridges. So I decided I'd go to another school that was cheap. I ended up running out of money so I got a job, never finishing at that school either. So there might be a record of me going to two schools and not passing. That makes me look really bad, LOL. I didn't know there was a record of it.

And I'm planning to go to a third school, if anyone will take me!

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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I wonder if my career is ruined before it ever started too, heh. I attended truck driving school, but I couldn't pass at the DMV. I was going to get more training, but shenanigans happened, I got angry over some lies and burned some bridges. So I decided I'd go to another school that was cheap. I ended up running out of money so I got a job, never finishing at that school either. So there might be a record of me going to two schools and not passing. That makes me look really bad, LOL. I didn't know there was a record of it.

And I'm planning to go to a third school, if anyone will take me!

Chris;

Practice what WE PREACH!!! This, young man...this: Apply For Paid CDL Training

Ergo; you will HAVE A JOB when you COMPLETE THE TRAINING, and owe NOTHING, but a few months of COMMITMENT!

Seriously, I'd start ^^^there^^^ with the link.

I'd be hard pressed to hear NOBODY bit on your app.

Kerry & I have LISTS (AS YOU KNOW) of other companies, more lenient in hirings, yet DO have training.

Seriously; stop being your OWN worst enemy!! Enrolling in yet a 3rd school (IMHO~!) at this point, will probably REDUCE your chances and choices.

Again, just imho.

~ Anne ~

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

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