Teaming With My Fiancé

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Anne A. (Momma Anne) & To's Comment
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I want to help Ryan out a bit.

If he and his Fiancé are at least 18, there is an option in Arkansas to get a CDL-A to drive Intrastate only.

Do any of you know of companies that offer paid CDL training in that situation?

The other option is government grants to cover cost of private CDL schools. The university system in Arkansas offers training.

They could get individual driving experience before turning 21, when they could apply to companies offering Interstate team driving opportunities.

There were married couples at Prime taking the PSD training at same time to obtain their CDLs.

I think TNT training would require them to split up with separate trainers. Upon successfully completing TNT they could apply to upgrade together as a team in their own truck.

I'd love to help as well, Dennis!

And ya got me yammering, and researching again. . . LoL. Hubby's en route to the 90, (ie: me!) in traffic. So, here's more:

Almost ALL states have the 18 to 21 re: intrastate. WIOA grants, could get them in. Is it worth it??? Hmm.. maybe, if Lowe's or Home Depot or Menards, or an LTL dock to driver program would sponsor them. Otherwise, I'd steer away from any driving, uneccessarily!

Prime, on the other hand, prefers 'freshies.' Those with 'no prior' CDL's ...it won't help their onward motion. I'm not sure the terminology, contact Kearsey on that, she's mentioned it many times here before, and in her Videos. It really doesn't do one, any good to have one ... without experience behind it.

Seriously, (of course, IMHO..) what they SHOULD do, is function in 'NON' driving jobs, and protect their licenses for the time being, until (if ever) these pilot programs come into play. My 18 year old son can drive our O/O pals' 18 speed, and I even can't better a 10, myself! Other than farmers' fields or hauling the Amish in a 12 person van, no jobs, sadly.

Safer to just 'keep otherwise' unless your state supports such, intensely and immensely. Worst thing would be wrecking a license, before you even HAVE a CDL! Ask Davy, our Knight, 'Knight/Squire!' (< Sorry, man! We luv ya!)

As are many other folks,' my email is in my profile..if anyone wants to talk further. I'm not Rickipedia (Rick Stern, R.I.P.) but I knew him. He didn't transform his knowledge to me, sadly. I miss him wholeheartedly. Nobody has the green book PLUS, in their PC AND their heads, like he did, for sure. All I've memorized is 309.6 .. know why??? NOBODY will make 'my guy' drive .. tired, sick, or otherwise unsafe. Coercion. Tattoo it on y'all's ankles, Ryan!

I'm no better, no smarter; just the wife of a trucker for (OMG!) 22 years now! Had my permit twice, couldn't take the leap of faith..leaving the kiddos. We all have our reasons. To Be there. We all have a thing or two to learn. (Yeah, Alanis!)

Ryan & fiance', my daughter is 22, and my son is 18! (Ours, dang me.. I take all the credit!) O.o

Hope some of the above links help. My advice would be that unless there is a specific class/college available, WIOA, or otherwise.. catering to those in the lower age groups, ... just save your D/L and your DMV for now.

Best to all,

~ Anne ~

ps: Pilot Program / Blurred Lines

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

WIOA:

WIOA - Workforce Innovation & Opportunity Act (aka WIA)

Formerly known as the Workforce Investment Act (WIA), the WIOA was established in 1998 to prepare youth, adults and dislocated workers for entry and reentry into the workforce. WIOA training funds are designed to serve laid-off individuals, older youth and adults who are in need of training to enter or reenter the labor market. A lot of truck drivers get funding for their CDL training through WIOA.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

Intrastate:

The act of purchasers and sellers transacting business while keeping all transactions in a single state, without crossing state lines to do so.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

Ryan F.'s Comment
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Thank y’all both very much! My fiancé and I are no longer together so team is all but out of the question for me, but I have it narrowed down after months of research to either CFI (mainly from Big Scott’s diary and 200 Riding With Dave YouTube Vlog’s) or Prime (from multiple diaries I’ve read and just everything good I’ve heard about them) I know that if this pilot program doesn’t pass or I’m unable to get into it as it’ll be limited to 3000 at a time I’m still looking at 3+ years before any of this is set into stone, but I know it’s never too early to start preparing, I’ve recently started studying all my general knowledge for my CDL so that when the time comes, whether it be soon it a few years from now I’m really on top of it, I thank you guys for being so welcoming and supportive, and I cannot wait to hopefully sooner rather than later start my life on the road!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Anne A. (Momma Anne) & To's Comment
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Thank y’all both very much! My fiancé and I are no longer together so team is all but out of the question for me, but I have it narrowed down after months of research to either CFI (mainly from Big Scott’s diary and 200 Riding With Dave YouTube Vlog’s) or Prime (from multiple diaries I’ve read and just everything good I’ve heard about them) I know that if this pilot program doesn’t pass or I’m unable to get into it as it’ll be limited to 3000 at a time I’m still looking at 3+ years before any of this is set into stone, but I know it’s never too early to start preparing, I’ve recently started studying all my general knowledge for my CDL so that when the time comes, whether it be soon it a few years from now I’m really on top of it, I thank you guys for being so welcoming and supportive, and I cannot wait to hopefully sooner rather than later start my life on the road!

Ryan, You're super welcome, for sure! Dennis' diary is a godsend to this forum.

Sorry about the fiance' . . . dang. In all honesty, teaming with a partner is tricky in and of itself; me and the 'Tomster' hubby guy in my avatar did so, with my permit; and we were solid, and ... it's tough! PJ has a few posts re: teaming with HIS fiance'... know why only a few? Because they mostly DON'T~! ;) Focus on YOU for now, kiddo. Read. Study. Scroll down the 'hamburger' list and read some blogs, even old ones!

Starting FRESH with Prime, is an awesome bet for you. You'll be 'teaming' in PSD and TNT plenty, so when you upgrade (as Dennis is 'pining' to do!) You'll be SO happy to have your own space!

Kearsey has some awesome videos on such; look at some, as time permits! Truckin' Along w/Kearsey!

Best wishes, man!

~ Anne & Tom ~

ps: Let us all know what (if anything) we can do, to help you progress in your journey!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

Dennis L's Comment
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Ryan

Sorry about the personal situation.

Anne raised a good point. Companies will look real hard at your work history, driving history and criminal history.

Keep it all clean young man.

Holding down a steady job for a few years before applying to paid CDL training at 21 will help.

Cheers

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
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