The “off Duty Creep”

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Klutch's Comment
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Oh please some people do this all the time, not just in an oh sh*t situation where they would be in violation. I see people starting the day off using it to leave the truck stop. Hell last week in Georgia I was behind a guy that did out out of the truck stop and down the side road, he didn’t step on it until the main road before turning for the interstate.

Like I said those using it and are out of the way is one thing, but don’t act like everyone doing it has no other choice. Plan better for one.

So you think they should violate their clock so you can save 3 or 4 minutes? Got it.

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I’m comparing two situations where the driver is being inconsiderate to his/her fellow drivers. As stated previously doing it out of the way of others is one thing, with room to pass etc. Doing it through a crowded truck stop with people behind you or similar situations … **** move imho.

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Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Rob T.'s Comment
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So you think they should violate their clock so you can save 3 or 4 minutes? Got it.

If you need to do the creep one could argue that you planned poorly. Obviously that's not always the case. Where do we draw the line on what's acceptable towards other drivers or not? At the Sysco in Olathe KS I got stuck behind someone doing the creep and had no way to get around them. It seriously ate up over 10 minutes of my time. Is that acceptable to needlessly burn time on my clock to save yours? Then why isn't it acceptable for me to take my 30 in the fuel island?

It's the same concept of you wanting me to violate my logs to save you a few minutes. Unfortunately everybody always has a difference of opinion and that opinion may change depending on what side of the equation they're on. If we always do things 100% by the book it takes away from our productivity. If we skirt the rules (like the 4 mph creep) it may increase our productivity at the expense of others.

PackRat's Comment
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I think the biggest killer of my clock (outside of waiting in a dock) is sitting in line at the fuel island. If it's not an empty lane where I can pull up and fuel, invariably I will always pick the wrong lane. The one where their card won't work, or they need to wash the truck with the hose and squeegee, or the driver that decides to change his oil, or the one that's doing a 47 minute break at the busiest time of day, etc....

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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The Amazon drivers will do this on the road we share with them, they will literally pull out right in front of us and do 4 MPH with no way to get around them sometimes.

But hey they saved themselves a few minutes I guess that is all that matters.

Rob T.'s Comment
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The Amazon drivers will do this on the road we share with them, they will literally pull out right in front of us and do 4 MPH with no way to get around them sometimes.

But hey they saved themselves a few minutes I guess that is all that matters.

I don't understand the mindset of that. Not only from a safety standpoint but from logs. Do they not think their logs are going to show the location details that where they went on duty and then back to driving don't match?

If you're constantly needing to violate your logs or get "creative" maybe you need to re evaluate your trip planning or stop booking loads so tightly.

PackRat's Comment
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The Amazon drivers will do this on the road we share with them, they will literally pull out right in front of us and do 4 MPH with no way to get around them sometimes.

But hey they saved themselves a few minutes I guess that is all that matters.

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I don't understand the mindset of that. Not only from a safety standpoint but from logs. Do they not think their logs are going to show the location details that where they went on duty and then back to driving don't match?

If you're constantly needing to violate your logs or get "creative" maybe you need to re evaluate your trip planning or stop booking loads so tightly.

Just the word "Amazon" tells me the story. Their contract drivers are idiots and completely unpredictable IMO. By no means all, but most from what I've witnessed out here.

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