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Jason, I assume your question has to do with understanding “Hours of Service” rules, correct?
Could you be more specific about your problem? I’m sure there is a lot of information here to help you and someone will no doubt post some links for you or give you a better answer than I can.
Don’t give up, these rules and regulations can be a little confusing at first but they become more understandable as time goes by.
There should be one of those books published: “HOS For Dummies” lol
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
This is not a 9 to 5 job. This is a "you may drive at any time during a 24 hour clock, but within you 14 hours of starting".
Therefore if you statt at midnight, you may not drive past 2 pm which is the end of your 14 hours. Therefore you have 11 hours to drive between midnight and 2pm. That allows time for bathroom breaks, food and possibly a customer.
Thanks BK and Kearsey. To be more specific I was wondering the "split sleeper berth thing, 1/2 hour breaks and 1 hour manditory time things. Thats what makes me confused when the show you pictures of the 24hr time cards and ask when was the driver in violation and what rules did he/she violate. If you really want to see how confusing, even though Trucking Truth does a great job explaining, try it. It's in the CDL practice tests sections under "LOGBOOKS" Check it out. And thank you !
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Logbook:
A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.
Sleeper Berth:
The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.
There's a lot on HOS in the high road training program as well as throughout the site here. When I was in school, I stressed off of it too, but I quickly had my hands full with successfully making it through school. It's one of those things that will make more sense to you once you are actually running every day and using your clocks as part of daily life.
One thing that helped is that our teachers made us do paper logs every day while in school and we were graded on them. Not all schools do that though.
Basically concentrate on the tasks at hand and prioritize what's most important, which is passing your CDL test first. Whiles it's always good to look ahead to the next step, it's important to not get too far ahead of yourself too.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
I'm having a real hard time on Logbooks in the CDL training...Thank you guys, Jason T /NY
Jason, I felt the same while going through training. Omnitrax (which my carrier uses) simplifies this considerably. You login and set yourself as the driver and as soon as you get rolling the countdown commences. Pay attention to this while you're first starting your career and pay attention to what happens to this countdown after taking extended breaks within that initial window described by others. You'll quickly learn the time tables and how to optimize it to your routes (OTR/regional). This is one thing you shouldn't stress out about. The paper logs are simply a repeat of this device. Electronic logs have simplified your job of managing your time. Have patience and go with the flow; keep your eyes open and pay attention to what's happening and you'll be okay. Focus on safety matters that keep the truck rolling; that's the one thing that will set you back more than anything.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Logbook:
A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.
Electronic Logs:
Electronic Onboard Recorder
Electronic Logbook
A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.
Regional:
Regional Route
Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.
OTR:
Over The Road
OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.
I'm extremely confused and getting horrible scores. Thank you guys, Jason T /NY
As for this, consider talking to your CDL school teachers. Let them know where you are struggling. 1:1 training is the key benefit of attending CDL school. If they don't have anyone who can set aside time to meet you where you are struggling, let them know this. Some trainers just haven't got a clue.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
There's a lot on HOS in the high road training program as well as throughout the site here. When I was in school, I stressed off of it too, but I quickly had my hands full with successfully making it through school. It's one of those things that will make more sense to you once you are actually running every day and using your clocks as part of daily life.
One thing that helped is that our teachers made us do paper logs every day while in school and we were graded on them. Not all schools do that though.
Basically concentrate on the tasks at hand and prioritize what's most important, which is passing your CDL test first. Whiles it's always good to look ahead to the next step, it's important to not get too far ahead of yourself too.
Thanks Davy, great advice. And school is hard sometimes. The hardest is waking myself up in the middle of the night and finding my brain running thru my pre-trip, and thinking I left something out LOL. Thanks again, Jason
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Thank you for your advice Moose. The school's not even touching on the Log stuff. I'm doing it on my own because I was just curious and wanted it not to be strange to me in the future. But, I got ya, I need to really practice and focus a lot more on learning "driving". Right now, having a rough time with parallel, but I'll get it, I hope. My test is April 27. I only had about 10 classes so far. The stress is on... Thanks Moose
I'm having a real hard time on Logbooks in the CDL training...Thank you guys, Jason T /NY
Jason, I felt the same while going through training. Omnitrax (which my carrier uses) simplifies this considerably. You login and set yourself as the driver and as soon as you get rolling the countdown commences. Pay attention to this while you're first starting your career and pay attention to what happens to this countdown after taking extended breaks within that initial window described by others. You'll quickly learn the time tables and how to optimize it to your routes (OTR/regional). This is one thing you shouldn't stress out about. The paper logs are simply a repeat of this device. Electronic logs have simplified your job of managing your time. Have patience and go with the flow; keep your eyes open and pay attention to what's happening and you'll be okay. Focus on safety matters that keep the truck rolling; that's the one thing that will set you back more than anything.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Logbook:
A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.
Electronic Logs:
Electronic Onboard Recorder
Electronic Logbook
A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.
Regional:
Regional Route
Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.
OTR:
Over The Road
OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.
OOS:
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
This is not a 9 to 5 job. This is a "you may drive at any time during a 24 hour clock, but within you 14 hours of starting".
Therefore if you statt at midnight, you may not drive past 2 pm which is the end of your 14 hours. Therefore you have 11 hours to drive between midnight and 2pm. That allows time for bathroom breaks, food and possibly a customer.
Possibly a customer, love it
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Hi everyone, I'm in CDL school but trying to enhance my overall knowledge on the whole industry. I'm having a real hard time on Logbooks in the CDL training practice tests. Can't seem to get it in my thick skull. Is there any quick formula of when you can't work anymore, and when you can with the 11 hour rule and 14 hour rule? I'm extremely confused and getting horrible scores. Thank you guys, Jason T /NY
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
Logbook:
A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.