MTC Truck Driving School In MO

Hello,

Just about ready to start my new career. I am all lined up to begin my training with CR England. However I recently ran across a school based in Missouri called MTC. I have spoken to the representative and seems to have been approved with school at their location and a pre hire letter from a major carrier (ROEHL). Does anyone have any comments about the school or its program? Should I consider going or stick with CR England? Please let me know. Thanks for you help!! Trevor

Hello,

Just about ready to start my new career. I am all lined up to begin my training with CR England. However I recently ran across a school based in Missouri called MTC. I have spoken to the representative and seems to have been approved with school at their location and a pre hire letter from a major carrier (ROEHL). Does anyone have any comments about the school or its program? Should I consider going or stick with CR England? Please let me know. Thanks for you help!! Trevor

IMO, I always recommend attaining your CDL at your own expense and avoiding company sponsored programs.

Roehl has a fairly good reputation - CRE does not.

Hello,

Just about ready to start my new career. I am all lined up to begin my training with CR England. However I recently ran across a school based in Missouri called MTC. I have spoken to the representative and seems to have been approved with school at their location and a pre hire letter from a major carrier (ROEHL). Does anyone have any comments about the school or its program? Should I consider going or stick with CR England? Please let me know. Thanks for you help!! Trevor

IMO, I always recommend attaining your CDL at your own expense and avoiding company sponsored programs.

Roehl has a fairly good reputation - CRE does not.

If you jump up to the search box on this site and type in MTC you will get your info.

Hello,

Just about ready to start my new career. I am all lined up to begin my training with CR England. However I recently ran across a school based in Missouri called MTC. I have spoken to the representative and seems to have been approved with school at their location and a pre hire letter from a major carrier (ROEHL). Does anyone have any comments about the school or its program? Should I consider going or stick with CR England? Please let me know. Thanks for you help!! Trevor

IMO, I always recommend attaining your CDL at your own expense and avoiding company sponsored programs.

Roehl has a fairly good reputation - CRE does not.

How so Bel A.? What does CR England do that gives them a bad rap? Driver accidents? Drivers untrained or under trained? If the answer is yes to any of them then look at the one component that is all the same with all three of those things I named.... the Driver. Or is it you are going by word of mouth and hearsay? So in order to prove that your statement the CR England has any truth to it what so ever you must have worked there and so you can name what the company itself did to give you the opinion that their reputation is not the best.

As for the company itself... Excellent equipment. Lot of freight and miles. I did 2 full leases with them and had absolutely zero issue with them. I paid for my house and two vehicles in cash with the money I earned while working there.

Hello,

Just about ready to start my new career. I am all lined up to begin my training with CR England. However I recently ran across a school based in Missouri called MTC. I have spoken to the representative and seems to have been approved with school at their location and a pre hire letter from a major carrier (ROEHL). Does anyone have any comments about the school or its program? Should I consider going or stick with CR England? Please let me know. Thanks for you help!! Trevor

IMO, I always recommend attaining your CDL at your own expense and avoiding company sponsored programs.

Roehl has a fairly good reputation - CRE does not.

How so Bel A.? What does CR England do that gives them a bad rap? Driver accidents? Drivers untrained or under trained? If the answer is yes to any of them then look at the one component that is all the same with all three of those things I named.... the Driver. Or is it you are going by word of mouth and hearsay? So in order to prove that your statement the CR England has any truth to it what so ever you must have worked there and so you can name what the company itself did to give you the opinion that their reputation is not the best.

As for the company itself... Excellent equipment. Lot of freight and miles. I did 2 full leases with them and had absolutely zero issue with them. I paid for my house and two vehicles in cash with the money I earned while working there.

That's a lot of words you put in my mouth there that never crossed my mind.

How is it that "untrained" and "undertrained" driver are not the fault of a company offering driver training?

Glad CRE worked out for you. The OP asked for an opinion, I gave mine.

Welcome to the forum Bel A.

I noticed you in here a few days ago, but I've been so busy turning my wheels I haven't had the chance to welcome you.

We like to deal in facts in this forum rather than opinion. If someone has an opinion and they will back it up with facts then that is good, but for you to jump in and claim something like:

Roehl has a fairly good reputation - CRE does not.

Those kind of things don't fly in here. If you would have elaborated and explained what was so bad about C.R. England we would have listened and then probably corrected you if what you claimed was wrong, but if you had some good solid facts then we would have been proud of your contribution.

Let's just take a logical look at what you claimed. I am sure you are aware that C.R. England is one of the largest refrigerated carriers in the industry. That of course indicates that they have a long list of customers with whom they have a very good reputation. Being as large as they are they also have thousands of trucks and trailers, and several strategically placed terminals. Okay, so we also know that they must have a great reputation with the Banks who have loaned them millions of dollars to finance this great undertaking. Any trucking company with that much rolling stock also has thousands of drivers - there again we have to assume those drivers consider the reputation of C.R. England to be worthy of staying and busting their tails for a good solid paycheck. We don't allow slavery in this country, and you know just as well as I that any driver with experience can get on the phone and have a job in about five minutes, so why do you think C.R. England has so many drivers?

I could go on and on with this little lesson in critical thinking, but I just want you to realize that we don't operate like so many other trucking forums. Some of them almost seem to encourage slanderous remarks because that kind of stuff increases traffic to their site. We are here to help new drivers understand and learn how to make a good start in a very misunderstood industry. Random opinions based on what we have heard or seen on other trucking forums do not help us achieve our objective, good solid facts and information does, so that is what we deal in.

We understand in one sense what you were saying, but here is why it is not helpful. C.R. England is much more lenient on their requirements for accepting recruits, therefore they get a lot of people in their training centers who probably should have never been there in the first place - people who don't have the work ethic or the drive to succeed in a career that is as demanding as over the road truck driving. Then when they get sent home, as many of them do, they go straight to the trucking forums where they first started researching and begin spewing out their venom and pointing their finger at the company when the real fact of the matter is that they couldn't handle it in the first place. The problem with the forum format is that we don't know whether what they are saying is true or not because there is no way to verify what they are claiming. Dealing in facts eliminates that problem of having to sift through all the B.S. just to find one little nugget (if your lucky) of truth.

Truth is important to us, facts are what help us separate truth from fiction. We don't want people coming in here to have to dig and dig just to only end up more confused than when they started out on their research. People want the straightforward Trucking Truth. We do all we can to defend the truth.

No one is upset with you, we just want you to understand how the program works here. We realize people jump in here all the time without getting the whole concept of what we're about, but if we can help you get it then we know that you will be helpful to others. So we encourage you to to deal in facts, or at least give us some good logical reasons why you make a claim - that way we can have a discussion, and people can learn from our discussions.

Http://www.ooida.com/MediaCenter/PressReleases/pressrelease.asp?prid=274

The above is an OOIDA link to the settlement of a class action lawsuit that found CRE was violating truth in leasing rules.

That's about all the facts I have time to pull up. You're right - the rest of my information can be dismissed as hearsay, along with all those who have posted on "rip off report" and consumer complaints websites, and all the other forums.

Old school, I appreciate your detailed reply.

Banks loan money based on financial risk and reward.

Customers ship product on price.

Thousands of drivers mean little when the turnover rate exceeds 100%. That means thousands of unhappy drivers.

I like to help people, but should probably just let people make their own mistakes. There's no reason why I would know any more than the next guy after 10 years in this industry.

Both companies are good depending where you live. You should check if they haul freight to your home location. You also need to study the different types of freight. The freight determines many things.

I think both companies are about the same, but C R England are a larger company and the largest Refrigerated Carrier. Large companies often get more bashing than smaller companies. Roehl is good if you live in the eastern part of the USA, but C R England is better if you live in the Midwest, California, and mainly along the I-80 and I-40.

However, I know a driver from El Paso, TX. He does not have any problems with hometime. Yes, sometimes the freight does not allow the dispatcher to get you home. Temperature controlled freight is sometimes unpredictable. There may be a driver stuck on the road and you are needed to recover and swap trailers with him. Some day you might be stuck on the road and another driver needs to recover for you.

Roehl gives you more options such as dry van , refrigerated, flatbed, or curtainside while C R England is mainly Refrigerated.

At C R England, after 6 months safe driving, you have various options as well. You can choose intermodal and join England Logistics. They have their own fleet.

If you choose Refrigerated, then C R England is the better choice, because they are the largest company in this field and therefore have the most customers. They have less touch freight than other Refrigerated Companies. The drivers have more no-touch freight and they swap trailers if it is needed. Drop and Hook more common too.

However, you need to check if they haul to your hometown.

Good luck with your school and be sure to research yourself which company is best for you. Both are the same, but you will know which one is best for you.

C R England have long runs such as Los Angeles, CA to Tampa, FL to Denver, CO to Laredo, TX.

Bel A. I am not saying you are not in titled to your opinion. You certainly are. That law suit had to do with Truth in Leasing and mismanaging escrow account. While true this did happen and was fixed well before this lawsuit was even filed but since it did happen they had to pay the price.

What did not come out in the suit was the very few people that had any involvement in miss handling funds. Not saying CR England was blameless as it was their employees that caused the lawsuit. 6000 drivers were in the class action suit but very few of them actually had any damages whatsoever. They were included in the suit because they were lease drivers at the time. Not because they actual had monies misplaced.

Moving on.... As Old School said had you elaborated on this in the first place instead of making a vague statement this thread could have went a different way.

With that being said. Companies by an large across the country have done things that have gotten them in trouble for one reason or another. Look at Prime sexual harassment lawsuit last year.... Certainly does not make them a bad company even though their reputation took a hit. If this lawsuit had never taken place and mistakes weren't made that caused it could you really say the CR England was any different than the other thousands of companies out here? Honestly could you?

See we have drivers come onto this forum weekly asking if there are companies that will over look their past and give them a chance to prove themselves. Well CR England happens to be one of the companies that drivers can go to to get a new chance at life. For that reason alone I think it tends to show a pretty good sign of what a company should be doing. They help people get started in truck when no one else will give a person a chance.

Sure ALOT of people that go through their school and get hired on don't last long but then again those same people would not have lasted at any company.

CR England is one company. There are thousands across America that drivers fail to do their job and quit or are fired. CR England happened to be a company with a school so they see more than their fair share of people that should not drive a truck.

Now that is done with. Bel A. Your 10 years of driving certainly does count as being able to help people that are new. That is what we need. Experienced drivers helping new people get started on the right path.

This past May I have been driving for 16 years. I have been here on these forums since February 2009.i have more than once been called out on something I have said over the years. It's no big deal. We learn and move on. There is no hard feelings, or at least hope not, when we are corrected or when we correct others. It happens and we move on.

One thing we deal with here constantly is fact versus opinion like what is done on other forums. We try very hard not to jump on a band wagon and ride what seems to be the Popular Opinion Bus. Popular opinion can often be wrong especially when your dealing with truck drivers. Drivers like to pick a side, even if the wrong side, and run with it. Right or wrong.

If companies were truly as bad as people make them out to be they would have shut their doors long ago.