I Drove Only 30' Trailers.

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Cleft_Asunder's Comment
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During CDL school I drove kenworth's that were more for construction duty with 30 foot trailers. They were very sensitive to oversteering. I never drove an OTR truck with a 53', so am I going to have a tough time passing my orientation? (Off-sets, alley dock, straight-back)

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Daniel B.'s Comment
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There will definitely be an adjustment period. But remember that the shorter the trailer the harder to back it up, shorter trailers respond very quickly and as soon as you oversteer there's hardly any chance of you recoving without doing a pull-up.

A 53' trailer is a lot longer but its much more forgiving than a shorter trailer.

I think you should be fine. If you were good at backing a 30' trailer then you should be able to back a 53' trailer. Just take it slow and remember to consider that a 53' trailer has a lot of extra trailer beyond the trailer tandems. This acts like a tail and can whip across your lines. So when backing it up make sure you keep in mind the very back of the trailer to ensure it won't cross the lines.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Old School's Comment
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Robert, for most company orientation and training programs you will not even be road tested until after your time with your trainer. So you should get around four weeks of practice with the proper trailers before you are ever going to be tested. That's plenty of time to get the "feel" for a real trailer.

Cleft_Asunder's Comment
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There will definitely be an adjustment period. But remember that the shorter the trailer the harder to back it up, shorter trailers respond very quickly and as soon as you oversteer there's hardly any chance of you recoving without doing a pull-up.

A 53' trailer is a lot longer but its much more forgiving than a shorter trailer.

I think you should be fine. If you were good at backing a 30' trailer then you should be able to back a 53' trailer. Just take it slow and remember to consider that a 53' trailer has a lot of extra trailer beyond the trailer tandems. This acts like a tail and can whip across your lines. So when backing it up make sure you keep in mind the very back of the trailer to ensure it won't cross the lines.

My instructors said the same thing, that if you can back up the smaller trailers you can back up the 53 footers for sure, so thanks for confirming.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Cleft_Asunder's Comment
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Robert, for most company orientation and training programs you will not even be road tested until after your time with your trainer. So you should get around four weeks of practice with the proper trailers before you are ever going to be tested. That's plenty of time to get the "feel" for a real trailer.

I think it might be different for May Trucking. They test you on orientation day with a short drive to see if you can shift, and also skills tests. Prime does the same thing, but it's on a simulation rather than an actual truck.

Old School's Comment
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I would double check that if I were you, my experience has usually been that if you come in as an experienced driver you will be road tested at the beginning, but if you are a student/recent graduate, they don't road test you until after spending time with a trainer. Every company is going to road test you, that is a requirement, but they treat recent graduates from trucking schools differently than they do experienced drivers. I'm sure it is possible that they do it that way at May, but they have got to know that there will be no expert shifting going on in that examination, so I would think they would have to be fairly lenient on that initial test.

I wouldn't get myself too worked up about it, if you can pass the driving test to get the CDL , you should be able to pass that one also.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Daniel B.'s Comment
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It really depends on the company. At my previous company we were tested on backing and driving before we ever got into a trainers truck. You had to get your actual CDL before you got on the road with a trainer.

These specific companies run their programs extremely fast paced. They expect you to be able to pass after only a short period of instruction.

However, as my buddy Old School said, they are usually fairly lenient on that initial test.

Just stay relaxed, remember that a million other people have been in your steps right now. If they did it - you can too!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
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