8/2 Split

8 hrs reset the 14, 10 hrs reset the 11. this is what i get from reading the regs. does anyone have the regs to show me where i am misunderstanding this.

See this:

FMCSA Hours of Service Logbook Examples

Examples 26 - 29

8 hrs reset the 14, 10 hrs reset the 11. this is what i get from reading the regs. does anyone have the regs to show me where i am misunderstanding this.

See this:

FMCSA Hours of Service Logbook Examples

Examples 26 - 29

We're not talking about the same thing apparently.

Wait, then what are we talking about? I think those example show that the 8 hours SB will not in fact reset the 14 hour clock, they only let you extend it.

Wait, then what are we talking about? I think those example show that the 8 hours SB will not in fact reset the 14 hour clock, they only let you extend it.

That's exactly what I've been saying. Doing 8 hours of SB does not fully reset your 14 hour clock, but it does extend it. Aka, it gives you what you had when you just put yourself on SB.

Yes, thank you this is excellent. i need to start the split after a 10 hr break then i can take a nap instead of a half hour break and still get my sleep later and drive up to 13 hours a day. with what i already learned to do legal with e logs and now the split i know i can still earn a living as an independent.

Yes, thank you this is excellent. i need to start the split after a 10 hr break then i can take a nap instead of a half hour break and still get my sleep later and drive up to 13 hours a day. with what i already learned to do legal with e logs and now the split i know i can still earn a living as an independent.

Okay, I use the split sleeper fairly often, and I think I understand it fairly well, but this conversation was already confusing me way before it took this last turn into crazy town. I'm glad you understand it Michael and feel confident you can still make a living now with this new found revelation, but this last comment of yours sent me right back into thinking that you are on a totally different page from the rest of us.

But seriously, if you are having to drive thirteen hours a day just to "earn a living" as an independent, I'm thinking you should re-assess your operation. Sounds to me like you would be much better off as a company driver.

I am a company driver. i got a divorce and a bankruptcy so i wont be able to buy for another month. i sold my truck and trailer in 2004 i wish i would have kept it but i wanted to be home so i sold. i am on the rehire list of all the companies i leased on to over the 9 and a half years i owned my truck but i need current otr experience. i decided to go bulk and hope schneider has the choice program open soon. loan mountain will lease me a truck next month. i never had e logs and many drivers said they could not be used to run a truck. i think they are wrong. as a business owner i set my own hours and will work what ever is legal to pay off my truck and earn a living.

So which is it? I was using the log book study here today and I also understood it as saying the only way you can reset the 14 is by ten hours in total. That the eight only allows you to stop the 14 hour period and pick back up on it after the eight. If you do eight and then finish your 11 hours driving then take two hours off duty does that constitute for a ten hour reset ?

So which is it? I was using the log book study here today and I also understood it as saying the only way you can reset the 14 is by ten hours in total. That the eight only allows you to stop the 14 hour period and pick back up on it after the eight. If you do eight and then finish your 11 hours driving then take two hours off duty does that constitute for a ten hour reset ?

No, as long as you continue to take split breaks, you cannot reset. You will just go on and on in split mode. The ONLY way to get a fresh 14/11 is to take 10 CONSECUTIVE hours. Period.

Here are the basics as taught to me earlier this week:

- When using split driving, no 2 adjacent driving periods (i.e. the periods directly before and after either the 2-hour or 8-hour break) can exceed 11 hours, not including short breaks and on-duty time. So if you drove 4 hours before a 2-hour break, after the break you can only drive 7 hours before having to take an 8-hour break.

- One break must be a minimum of 8 hours in the sleeper, the other must be a minimum of 2 hours however you want (sleeper and off-duty combination).

- The 8-hour break is never included as part of a 14-hour segment.

- Whenever you finish a 2-hour break, that creates a SEPARATE 14-hour rule. You must then take an 8-hour sleeper berth break before this separate 14-hour rule is over. The original 14-hour rule (i.e. from the end of your previous 8-hour sleeper berth) is also still in effect at this time.

Apparently, one of the best times to use the 2-hour break is when waiting for a load or unload...

So I get up start at seven a.m. on duty then start driving at seven-thirty a.m. go off duty for lunch at twelve p.m. for one hour and go on duty at one p.m. start driving at one- thirty p.m only to get to tired in traffic and find a stop and get in the sleeper birth three p.m.. I then spend eight consecutive hours in the sleeper birth. Would I have six hours of drive time left in a time frame of six hours of what was left of the full fourteen hour period? I know I did not say anything about inspecting after the sleep birth time so I understand I would not be able to squeeze an exact six hours of driving in. To get another 14/11 there would have to be a full 10 hour break?