Does Anyone Know How Long It Wold Take A Team To Get 140000 Miles(estimate Conservatively Please Or Best Guess Or Worse Scenario ????????????

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Jay R. R2-Detour 's Comment
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Teaming with the trainer is what made me decide solo was for me. I guess you'd get used to it but sleeping while someone was driving was a terrible experience for me. And when I stop for the day I like to be able to do whatever for a bit.

AntoineF's Comment
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Having a school in Alabama shouldn't matter. Also, many other companies provide free food and free lodging.

You're choosing a company based on the least important things you should be considering. It doesn't sound like you're too enthusiastic about team driving.

Listen, you need to pick a company for the right reasons. The average driver pay for a new driver is in the low 30's, so based on our math you're willing to sacrifice 10,000$ yearly salary just for free food and lodging (which pretty much every company provides for free).

You see where I'm going with this?

I think you need to go back to the drawing board and decide a company that fits you for the right reasons - and providing a free 3$ meal shouldn't be the deciding factor.

I know you're probably tight on money (I was too) but there's always something you can do to give you some breathing room.

I don't know where you get 3 meals at swift tit cost 16.00 a meal to eat in Memphis no stores within 4-5 miles and no transportation ! i lost 50 lbs while at swift? and the school director told our entire if we thought we could get our cdl's in 33 weeks we needed to be for real(even thou that's what they advertised on their web page? And you are right the team thing i hate? also i have read that some people end up having to stay up to 5-10 weeks don't know if its true? and .18 cents a mile for 120,000 miles which could be 6-12 months is a joke? they claim 50,000 first year when you stay in school for a month or more plus 6 wks with a trainer then 6 months to a year getting the 120,000 miles that is almost a year so the must mean your second or third year? These companies just tell you anything but the truth it seems? What I liked the school was only 3 hrs from home not really a priority but if things went like swift where we had 11 days of training and had to wait 4 wks or more to come back for road training and cdl skills test wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You state other companies provide lodging and food which one's or there any that require a shorter commitment and better training pay with trainer than .15 or .18 a mile? good-luck-2.gif

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Errol V.'s Comment
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Antione, I don't know where you get this stuff. I completed the Swift school in early January this year, and I do not believe they have changed that much in 6 months. BTW, I am speaking up, defending my experience there, not the company itself.

swift it cost 16.00 a meal to eat in Memphis

Sure, if you eat two meals! (no breakfast served) Their main lunch deal is $7.95, so two - maybe lunch and dinner - makes the 16 bucks.

no stores within 4-5 miles and no transportation

True! I once drove 4 miles to the closest Walmart

the school director told our entire if we thought we could get our cdl's in 33 weeks we needed to be for real(even thou that's what they advertised on their web page?

If I read this right, 33/4 is 8 months & change. Yes, get real! If you can't hack the course in two months, do some re-thinking.

also i have read that some people end up having to stay up to 5-10 weeks don't know if its true?

Can't say. I do know you may need to wait a bit for a mentor. Some of my co-students had to wait 2 weeks at home till the mentors came available. Not "5-10 weeks". I knew these people, I didn't read it on any web site. (Yes, all the stuff on the internet is true! LOL!)

.18 cents a mile for 120,000 miles

Are you writing about the mentor training? not at Swift! They pay students BY THE HOUR for either driving ($9.50/hr - that does work out to .18/mile at 50mph) or on duty not driving ($7.25). Not the "riches" of a solo driver, but better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

.18 cents a mile for 120,000 miles

What is this 120,000 miles all about? The mentor training is 200 hours, I believe, and after the final tests, there are no additional requirement to upgrade to solo.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
AntoineF's Comment
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Antione, I don't know where you get this stuff. I completed the Swift school in early January this year, and I do not believe they have changed that much in 6 months. BTW, I am speaking up, defending my experience there, not the company itself.

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swift it cost 16.00 a meal to eat in Memphis

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Sure, if you eat two meals! (no breakfast served) Their main lunch deal is $7.95, so two - maybe lunch and dinner - makes the 16 bucks.

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no stores within 4-5 miles and no transportation

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True! I once drove 4 miles to the closest Walmart

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the school director told our entire if we thought we could get our cdl's in 33 weeks we needed to be for real(even thou that's what they advertised on their web page?

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If I read this right, 33/4 is 8 months & change. Yes, get real! If you can't hack the course in two months, do some re-thinking.

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also i have read that some people end up having to stay up to 5-10 weeks don't know if its true?

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Can't say. I do know you may need to wait a bit for a mentor. Some of my co-students had to wait 2 weeks at home till the mentors came available. Not "5-10 weeks". I knew these people, I didn't read it on any web site. (Yes, all the stuff on the internet is true! LOL!)

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.18 cents a mile for 120,000 miles

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Are you writing about the mentor training? not at Swift! They pay students BY THE HOUR for either driving ($9.50/hr - that does work out to .18/mile at 50mph) or on duty not driving ($7.25). Not the "riches" of a solo driver, but better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

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.18 cents a mile for 120,000 miles

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What is this 120,000 miles all about? The mentor training is 200 hours, I believe, and after the final tests, there are no additional requirement to upgrade to solo.

First off in you were there in Jan you were in millington right but at the Memphis terminal you stay at the holiday in Memphis it cost 16.00 for dinner and we get up to early for breakfast,they have microwaves in the room but being by the airport there is no stores close by!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and that 2 months crap we did not have 2 months we had 11 days when i went in June they had(20 or so) trainers that quit and 3 class was sent home for 4 weeks more or less so they could schedule the cdl test. and what the director said if we thought we could get a cdl in 3 weeks we need to be for real he said there was no way we could get them in 3 weeks the whole class was there so why would i lie? and if you read its celadon not swift that requires 10,000 miles with a trainer then 120,000 miles with a team to fulfill the contract!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Swift pays by the hour not celadon they pay by the mile .15-.18 cents. You are one of those company defenders who never understand things change it was June 2015 when i was there not Jan 2015 this is what there when i was there!!!!!!! read before you attack next time. and swift cafeteria does not open at 6.am when we get to school at the Memphis terminal!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and it was swift own site that stated get your cdl in 3 weeks not some nut on the internet also it was their school director to think you would or could get them in 3 weeks was unreal thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! see super truckers don't read you just attack and call people a liar without being there? swift and celadon have two different training procedures on by the hour and one by the mile read read read ther is no dinner meal to get at school at swift in Memphis.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Jessica A-M's Comment
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You are one of those company defenders who never understand things change it was June 2015 when i was there not Jan 2015 this is what there when i was there!!!!!!! read before you attack next time. and swift cafeteria does not open at 6.am when we get to school at the Memphis terminal!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and it was swift own site that stated get your cdl in 3 weeks not some nut on the internet also it was their school director to think you would or could get them in 3 weeks was unreal thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! see super truckers don't read you just attack and call people a liar without being there? swift and celadon have two different training procedures on by the hour and one by the mile read read read ther is no dinner meal to get at school at swift in Memphis.

Errol was giving his experience and it definitely didn't look like an attack. Maybe he was confused about where you went or thought that you had gotten different information. What you wrote was the attack. Calling someone who has generally helpful posts a super trucker and company defender? So what if he likes his company? You were excessively rude when Errol was trying to be helpful with giving other information. And, he never once said the word liar. The paragraph you wrote that Errol replied to started off talking about Swift and never mentioned Celadon when you started talking about Celadon, and with all the exclamation marks it can get confusing if you are just speed reading through it.

I think you're confusing Trucking Truth for a different forum where being a jack is acceptable. Take a breath and try again.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Mike C.'s Comment
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I was at memphis academy in June as well, true that the instructors is short, true that you would be sent home before road training, and head of academy stated that.

But, suck it up buttercup I went home for two weeks and came back you have to deal with adversity! Did my road training last week knocked it out the park, then road instructor quits that Friday without notice. Gave them a heads up about what was happening.

Was suppost to DMV monday tester pushed back to Tuesday, makes me not able to Orientation on Tuesday. Now, sitting in hotel till Monday for Orientation. Just deal with the issues and adjust fire.

The academy is getting alot better they got rid of BAD instructors and rebuilding. Almost back to normal don't worry if you're heading there well worth it.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Errol V.'s Comment
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OK, I post a call-out, go drive all night and come back to this. A mess. First, I misunderstood lines like "swift it cost 16.00 a meal to eat in Memphis " to be eating at the Swift "coffee shop". Yes, hotels will charge what they can get, which means broke trucking students go hungry. I thought you were talking about the coffee shop. True, there's no breakfast, but I bet they could make that much more if they open at 6 - what with all the drivers living in their sleeper berths out there. Apology #1

The thing about no stores around? I agreed with you!!!!!!!!!!! I wish they could have a shuttle run for the people stuck there. Lancaster (Dallas, TX) does.

5-10 weeks - yes, I took 5 or 6 weeks from Day One till I got my Mississippi CDL. I think I was fortunate to be able to get through so quickly. I do know some co-students had to go home & sit for a week or two. On the other hand, one friend never got home at all over the holidays - had to stay in Memphis till he took off with his mentor, and that you know, is 4-5 weeks itself.

In your paragraph, Antoine, you do not mention Celadon (That was on Page 1) so I thought you were talking only about Swift. True, there are several ways to do the CDL training, but in your paragraph you changed subjects without telling anyone. Apology #2

I read through the Swift school blurb web page, there's nothing about "3 weeks" at all. They do have a crafty line: "You'll be paid while you train with the best trucking mentors in the business." Quick: when are you paid for training? Answer: "while you train with ... mentors", no other time. Maybe the "3 weeks" thing is somewhere else, or your friendly recruiter said so.

I know the school has lost many instructors, but only by reading here, and seeing the big signs at the truck entrance: HIRING INSTRUCTORS.

Antoine, your paragraph sounded so much like the long rants of unfounded and hearsay rumors. I went through the Swift school, so I felt qualified to speak up. If you changed the company you were talking about to Celadon or Knight, I would not have said anything. I'm not out to defend Swift. I think they do all right in taking care of their drivers, just like most other companies do. They're the largest company, maybe not the best. (I believe someone wrote about Panther who sounds pretty good. But they are o/o exclusively.)

Antoine, if you are still in Memphis, PM me. I'm at the terminal nearly every day.

As I mentioned I drove all night, just got home. I felt I should get you a better explanation. I'm going to bed.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

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