New Rules For CDL Learner's Permit And Skills Testing

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Brett Aquila's Comment
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Ok, we found this on the Cyberdrive Illinois Website:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL) - Proof of Legal Presence

On July 1, 2015, new federal standards for commercial driver's license (CDL) knowledge and skills testing and the issuance of commercial's learner's permits (CLP) will take effect as set forth below:

  • The CLP will be a hard card with photo.
  • Applicants must be 18 years of age to obtain a CLP.
  • The CLP must be accompanied by either a valid CDL or non-CDL license.
  • The CLP will be valid for 180 days. The CLP requires a $50.00 fee, plus all required written tests. The CLP may be renewed up to 30 days before and up to 5 calendar days after the expiration date of the original CLP, without retaking the written testing, at a cost of $50.00. If the initial CLP has expired more than 5 days or upon expiration of a renewed CLP, the applicant must re-take all applicable testing and pay a $50.00 fee.
  • CLP holders must hold the CLP for a minimum of 14 days after issuance. No skills test can be administered during that 14-day period. The 14-day waiting period also applies to all upgrades in classification or endorsements/restriction changes that require a skills test.
  • The only endorsements permitted on a CLP are School Bus (S), Tanker (N) and Passenger (P).
  • A CLP holder with an N endorsement (tank vehicle) is prohibited from operating a tank vehicle unless it is empty. In addition, if the tanker previously contained hazardous materials it must be purged (X restriction).
  • A CLP holder with a P and/or S endorsement is prohibited from operating a CMV with passengers, other than Federal/State auditors and inspectors, test examiners, other trainees, and the CDL holder (P restriction).
  • Restriction codes for CLP and/or CDL:
    • X for No cargo in a CMV tank vehicle (CLP only)
    • P for No passengers in a CMV bus (CLP only)
    • L for No Air brake equipped CMV (CLP and CDL)
    • M for No Class A passenger vehicle (CLP and CDL)
    • N for No Class A and B passenger vehicle (CLP and CDL)
    • K for CDL Intrastate only (CLP and CDL)
    • V for Medical variance for waiver/exemption and SPE (CLP and CDL)
    • Z for No Full Air brake equipped CMV (CDL only)
    • E for No Manual transmission equipped CMV (CDL only)
    • O for No Tractor-trailer CMV (CDL only)

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards

Intrastate:

The act of purchasers and sellers transacting business while keeping all transactions in a single state, without crossing state lines to do so.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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We also found this on Overdrive Online:

  • States checks for legal presence and domicile are required only once after July 8, 2011. This exception will be extended to cover all transactions, including renewal and upgrades.
  • Clarifies the FMCSA requires two people to be substantively involved in the license issuance process, but does not mandate that two people verify each document.
  • Allows state to decide if a CLP should include a photo.
  • Requires states perform background checks on test examiners only when hired instead of annually.
  • Allows CDL training schools to test their own students, as long as examiners do not administer skills test to the same drivers they personally trained.
  • Requires third-party CDL testers be bonded, but not governmental entities who do testing

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Errol V.'s Comment
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Allows CDL training schools to test their own students, as long as examiners do not administer skills test to the same drivers they personally trained.

So a qualified CDL school can administer the CDL skills test (shuffling the students & examiners)? Then that cuts out the third party ($$$) testing?

If the test is standardized across states, then a Utah examiner can skills test an Illinois student?

(Sometimes I go research this kind of stuff myself, but I'm just being lazy this afternoon.)

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Michael C.'s Comment
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Here is a response I got from the SoS office on out of state testing and Illinois accepting their skills/driving exam scores for an Illinois CDL. I thought it may come in handy for others that live in Illinois and decide to go to an out of state school or company provided training.

For the State of Illinois to accept out-of-state skills/drive testing results, the individual is required to have taken the appropriate written test(s) in Illinois and be issued a Commercial Learner’s Permit (CLP) on or after July 1, 2015. The State that administered the skills/drive testing must transmit the results electronically to the licensing State in an efficient and secure manner.

More information on the Commercial Driver’s License (CDL) and Commercial Learner’s Permit (CLP) can be accessed at http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/drivers/drivers_license/CDL/home.html .

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Errol V.'s Comment
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That sounds about right. You get your learner permit in your home state, go to school on Texas, and take/pass the skills test at your Texas school to (eventually) get your home state full CDL!

You still have to know Illinois laws (written test), but since backing a truck is the same the world around, your Texas test will do the job!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Roberto M.'s Comment
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Ive got a lofs(licensed occupant front seat) above a class c I'm trying to get to an academy actually how long is this valid for I'm from Texas and I want to become a truck driver hopefully I will trying to get as much info as I can with all trucking companies offering training thank you

Steppenwolf 's Comment
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Hi...Still won't transfer to Virginia. If it is out of state will still need to do all Virginia tests....

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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Allows CDL training schools to test their own students, as long as examiners do not administer skills test to the same drivers they personally trained.

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So a qualified CDL school can administer the CDL skills test (shuffling the students & examiners)? Then that cuts out the third party ($$$) testing?

If the test is standardized across states, then a Utah examiner can skills test an Illinois student?

(Sometimes I go research this kind of stuff myself, but I'm just being lazy this afternoon.)

I'm willing to bet money NY will not allow this. Too much lost revenue.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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