Drivers Score Victory In Werner Class Action Case

Will probably mean nothing for at least a few years due to the appeal process. As to what exact changes it will make in Werner's student trainer program there is no telling. I would not worry about it right now.If you go through training with Werner this will take place ,if at all, well after you complete training.

Sounds good to me.

" The Line 4 is the one that goes against your total 70 hours drive and Line 2 (Sleeper) won't. The less On Duty Not Driving you are able to log, the more chance you have to Drive and make money. "

Just wondering what the difference in paycheck would be between line 4 and line 2?

Tracey, this is just my opinion. I try to stay off of line four as much as possible. As far as I'm concerned they can keep all that detention pay, it is not worth the trouble. You will make a lot more money if you concentrate on driving. My situation is different than most, and I know that some folks get all bent out of shape about not getting their detention pay. I do not end up sitting and waiting a lot of times, and if for some reason I do, my dispatcher throws me some money on there without me wasting my hours by sitting there on line four while waiting.

" The Line 4 is the one that goes against your total 70 hours drive and Line 2 (Sleeper) won't. The less On Duty Not Driving you are able to log, the more chance you have to Drive and make money. "

Just wondering what the difference in paycheck would be between line 4 and line 2?

Let me start by saying that I know there are many different types of trucking jobs out there but this response is only going to be about a normal driving job. Mostly company drivers doing normal OTR work.

Most normal driving jobs only pay drivers when they are turning miles. On-Duty Driving is how most drivers are paid. That means you are using your 70 hour clock. All time spent on line 4 (on-duty not driving) eat into that 70 hour clock which means ,in most cases,less time available driving and that equals less money due to less miles being driven.

Now I am all for drivers getting paid for all the work they do. That is why LTL type trucking is awesome but LTL is not what most drivers are doing. I have owned my own trucks and I have been a manager at a fortune 500 company (Trugreen Chemlawn before name change). I did not get paid if I sat around taking "little breaks" less than 20 minutes,like the lawsuit states these drivers are wanting to do, nor did the guys I managed get paid for doing nothing.

Now with all that being said there are trucking jobs that do pay drivers that use their line 4 like it should be used. For working. And that's fine.They are working.

Line 1 and Line 2 ,for most normal driving jobs, the driver is not working and should not be paid. Line 1 is used to say the driver is out of the truck and is relieved of all work related activity for a time. Line 2 is saying the driver is resting and relaxing in the sleeper area of the truck and not working and of course they should not be paid.

A recent lawsuit brought against Walmart opened the door for this type of litigation and there will be more of these types of lawsuits. So stay tuned on that front.

A recent lawsuit brought against Walmart opened the door for this type of litigation and there will be more of these types of lawsuits. So stay tuned on that front.

Here is my post from a couple months back on that story...Walmart Truckers Score $100 Million Lost Wages Victory In Court

I did not get paid if I sat around taking "little breaks" less than 20 minutes,like the lawsuit states these drivers are wanting to do, nor did the guys I managed get paid for doing nothing.

When I was a roofer, we got paid for two 10 min breaks per day. Typically, we took our breaks at 1000 and 1400 daily. We didn't get paid for our 30 min lunch break. Our basic hours were 0730 to 1600, so we were on the clock for 8 1/2 hours to make up for the lunch break.

I did not get paid if I sat around taking "little breaks" less than 20 minutes,like the lawsuit states these drivers are wanting to do, nor did the guys I managed get paid for doing nothing.

When I was a roofer, we got paid for two 10 min breaks per day. Typically, we took our breaks at 1000 and 1400 daily. We didn't get paid for our 30 min lunch break. Our basic hours were 0730 to 1600, so we were on the clock for 8 1/2 hours to make up for the lunch break.

Yeah but you also knew before you took the job that you would be getting paid for the 15 minute breaks. With a few exceptions,like LTL or local driving, if you are not driving and turning miles ALL drivers know you don't get paid. It is no surprise or anything hidden.

I am for making more money when I can and I am not against that at all.

What I am against are people that think they should be paid for sitting around and doing absolutely nothing and expect a pay check. That is the exact same mentality that plaques our welfare system now in the United States.

GuyJax is right. There's trucking jobs, then there's trucking jobs.

My next door neighbor drives a shuttle for USF Holland. He gets CPM (I think) and that's line 3. But he does get paid for time on line 4 (on duty not driving) for dropping & hooking trailers. And both of those activities add into your 70 hour limit in 8 days.

Yeah but you also knew before you took the job that you would be getting paid for the 15 minute breaks.

True. Good point.