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I Fulfilled State Required Hours and Completed the $4,000 Course but NO CDL

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Bobby B.'s Comment
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Would companies make me go through their training all over again even though I already fulfilled the state requirements for training and I have my certificate and everything. I just don't have the cdl because I failed the test during the skills test at the DMV.

Have you ever heard of a company providing money to just solely take the CDL test at the DMV or is the test always inclusive to the company training? I just would like to know if my class completion actually holds any value without a CDL in the companies eyes...

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Chris L.'s Comment
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Why don't you take the test again through your school. It's common for people to take multiple tries to get their CDL.

As for training at your first company, yes you will have to go with a trainer, even with a CDL and your school. You don't have any experience yet.

I went to a private school to get my CDL and I did four weeks with a trainer at my first company.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Bobby B.'s Comment
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Why don't you take the test again through your school. It's common for people to take multiple tries to get their CDL.

As for training at your first company, yes you will have to go with a trainer, even with a CDL and your school. You don't have any experience yet.

I went to a private school to get my CDL and I did four weeks with a trainer at my first company.

We only got one chance to pass the CDL test. So now the class is over and I'm without a truck to test in. Also not sure how much the dmv will charge me as the expense was included in tuition for the first test I failed.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Rick S.'s Comment
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Would companies make me go through their training all over again even though I already fulfilled the state requirements for training and I have my certificate and everything. I just don't have the cdl because I failed the test during the skills test at the DMV.

Have you ever heard of a company providing money to just solely take the CDL test at the DMV or is the test always inclusive to the company training? I just would like to know if my class completion actually holds any value without a CDL in the companies eyes...

If you go to a company WITHOUT A CDL - you will be expected to go through the same course as EVERYONE ELSE that doesn't have one (aka: newbies) - and take on the same obligation as far as staying with the company to offset your training.

Which skill did you FAIL? How many times did you fail? Did the school you paid $4K to, not give you the opportunity to work on the skills you were weak on - and RETEST?

Going with a company - will give you the opportunity to get (or renew) your CLP - and go out for some REAL WORLD DRIVING to hone your skills before taking the DMV tests.

While most companies require a certain number of hours (160 seems to be the magic number) for RECENT GRADS WITH CDL IN HAND - there are currently not state/federal regs "on the books" that specify how many hours training is required (though FMCSA is supposed to do a rule-making on this REAL SOON).

You class completion really means little "in the company's eyes" - because you fell short by not obtaining a CDL. In the class I attended (320 hours at a County VoTech) if you didn't GET your CDL - you DIDN'T GET A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION.

Part of the "requirement" to complete a CDL school - is to ACTUALLY GET YOUR CDL.

You wouldn't care to clue us in on what school that happened to be?

While private schools can't guarantee you A JOB - they certainly should be able to stick by you, until you actually get your CDL.

There are genuinely some folks that just CANNOT MASTER THE SKILLS REQUIRED to pass the CDL Skills Tests. It's rare, but it does happen. Usually because of nervous while testing, or not getting enough quality time training and practice before testing.

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Chris L.'s Comment
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That school sucks in my opinion. You payed all that money for only one chance? That sucks man. I would suggest company sponsored training. I like Primes program, and one of the higher paying companies for new drivers.

I'm pretty sure you would have to do the full training since you don't have your CDL. But if you stay a year you won't owe them for the training and getting your CDL.

I just can't believe the school only gives you one shot.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Company Sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

Bobby B.'s Comment
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Would companies make me go through their training all over again even though I already fulfilled the state requirements for training and I have my certificate and everything. I just don't have the cdl because I failed the test during the skills test at the DMV.

Have you ever heard of a company providing money to just solely take the CDL test at the DMV or is the test always inclusive to the company training? I just would like to know if my class completion actually holds any value without a CDL in the companies eyes...

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If you go to a company WITHOUT A CDL - you will be expected to go through the same course as EVERYONE ELSE that doesn't have one (aka: newbies) - and take on the same obligation as far as staying with the company to offset your training.

Which skill did you FAIL? How many times did you fail? Did the school you paid $4K to, not give you the opportunity to work on the skills you were weak on - and RETEST?

Going with a company - will give you the opportunity to get (or renew) your CLP - and go out for some REAL WORLD DRIVING to hone your skills before taking the DMV tests.

While most companies require a certain number of hours (160 seems to be the magic number) for RECENT GRADS WITH CDL IN HAND - there are currently not state/federal regs "on the books" that specify how many hours training is required (though FMCSA is supposed to do a rule-making on this REAL SOON).

You class completion really means little "in the company's eyes" - because you fell short by not obtaining a CDL. In the class I attended (320 hours at a County VoTech) if you didn't GET your CDL - you DIDN'T GET A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION.

Part of the "requirement" to complete a CDL school - is to ACTUALLY GET YOUR CDL.

You wouldn't care to clue us in on what school that happened to be?

While private schools can't guarantee you A JOB - they certainly should be able to stick by you, until you actually get your CDL.

There are genuinely some folks that just CANNOT MASTER THE SKILLS REQUIRED to pass the CDL Skills Tests. It's rare, but it does happen. Usually because of nervous while testing, or not getting enough quality time training and practice before testing.

Rick

Okay so It basically was just a big complete waste of time and I can burn my certificate because I failed the one and only CDL test. I failed the parallel parking part of the skills test by 1 point.

I won't name the school I attended sorry.

Okay so at least there's hope still. I'll just have to do EVERYTHING OVER AGAIN... at a company sponsored training. I still have my permit and DOT med card and everything else.

The staff at the DMV is really tough, I wasn't the only one in the class who failed... the majority of us did to be honest.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Company Sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Bobby B.'s Comment
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That school sucks in my opinion. You payed all that money for only one chance? That sucks man. I would suggest company sponsored training. I like Primes program, and one of the higher paying companies for new drivers.

I'm pretty sure you would have to do the full training since you don't have your CDL. But if you stay a year you won't owe them for the training and getting your CDL.

I just can't believe the school only gives you one shot.

Yeah sucks, and I saved up for a while to pay that 4k. I'm depressed right now.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Company Sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

Jim J's Comment
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It's my understanding that you get three trys from the div to pass after you pay the initial fee. After that you have to wait 30 days, repay the fee and retest. Every school I looked into also gave you three tries before having to pay them more money for yard / practice time. That sounds pretty shady to me. What does your contact state in the event of failure?

JJ

Steve L.'s Comment
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I think I'd be having a conversation with the school AND the DMV regarding the school's one-test policy. Either it's just a scam of a school or there's more to this story. Either way, I'd fight like hell to get my money's worth.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Old School's Comment
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Bobby, there seems to be something missing in your story.

In the first place I've never heard of anyone receiving their certificate without obtaining their CDL. What would be the point of that? That's like the school is proud to be advertising their failure rate!

If you are not assertive enough to get in there and get another chance at testing, you are going to have some serious issues with being successful in this career. Instead of asking us about Company-Sponsored Training Programs you ahould be putting your efforts into finding out from the school what it is that you need to do to test again. There is no way they have a standard policy of one and done. They would have a terrible failure rate, and that in itself would keep major carriers from being interested in hiring their students.

The whole purpose of the certificate is to show that you successfully passed the course.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Company-sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

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