Need Advice About Marijuana Testing For CDL Drivers

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Scott O.'s Comment
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But see that plant legal or not alters your mind and reactions... Just like pills and other legal drugs deemed illegal for trucking which is why the drug tests are taken so serious... To me weed or any other drug legal or illegal just ain't worth my trucking career... I wouldn't give this job up for anything. But that's my opinion and you know the saying about them....

G-Town's Comment
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What company was that? If you don't mind me asking (Hoping like a fool that maybe my company is too cheap to do that)

I don't think it matters. Hope is not a strategy.

I was hoping someone would come on her and give me a fool proof plan on how to beat the system but I know that's just a pipe dream

Beat the system? This is where you lost me. I am done with this. In your initial post I think you asked for us to call you stupid...case closed.

John D.'s Comment
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What company was that? If you don't mind me asking (Hoping like a fool that maybe my company is too cheap to do that)

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I don't think it matters. Hope is not a strategy.

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I was hoping someone would come on her and give me a fool proof plan on how to beat the system but I know that's just a pipe dream

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Beat the system? This is where you lost me. I am done with this. In your initial post I think you asked for us to call you stupid...case closed.

Yeah the system being I'm told what I am or am not allowed to do in the privacy of my own home.

John D.'s Comment
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Well-I'm sorry I lost you guys so quickly but I still appreciate the post. Thanks

The Persian Conversion's Comment
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Listen John, I totally understand where you're coming from. In my 20s I smoked heavily for years, primarily for the same reason as you: I thought it enhanced everything I did into some kind of awesome experience.

But what I finally realized is that it doesn't let you experience a more profound life, it does exactly the opposite. It removes you psychologically from the profound life experiences you could and should be having.

Video games and TV shows are not what life is all about, they're just a distraction designed to keep you numb and unproductive. Life is much more beautiful when you are clear headed and engage life in a positive and productive way.

I hope you don't think I'm being preachy, I want you to understand that I went through exactly what you are going through and I feel like I have some wisdom on this issue that would really benefit you. It's totally up to you if you want to take advantage of it or not.

For a very long time, my life was basically getting high and watching TV/movies and playing video games. But that Mary Jane is a devious b***h. She tricked me into wasting a good portion of my prime that I will never get back. Do I miss her? Sometimes. But believe me, I have so much more without her.

Trust me. Just let her go.

John D.'s Comment
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Listen John, I totally understand where you're coming from. In my 20s I smoked heavily for years, primarily for the same reason as you: I thought it enhanced everything I did into some kind of awesome experience.

But what I finally realized is that it doesn't let you experience a more profound life, it does exactly the opposite. It removes you psychologically from the profound life experiences you could and should be having.

Video games and TV shows are not what life is all about, they're just a distraction designed to keep you numb and unproductive. Life is much more beautiful when you are clear headed and engage life in a positive and productive way.

I hope you don't think I'm being preachy, I want you to understand that I went through exactly what you are going through and I feel like I have some wisdom on this issue that would really benefit you. It's totally up to you if you want to take advantage of it or not.

For a very long time, my life was basically getting high and watching TV/movies and playing video games. But that Mary Jane is a devious b***h. She tricked me into wasting a good portion of my prime that I will never get back. Do I miss her? Sometimes. But believe me, I have so much more without her.

Trust me. Just let her go.

No you don't come across as preachy, I was hoping for people with experience to post.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying but I'm also a big believer in balance. I'd like to believe I can live the pointless life of TV, video games and weed but also live the real side of life as well.

But I could be wrong.

I will take everything you've said into consideration and do my best to take a step back and analyze my life

Old School's Comment
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Wow, John, I was going to stay out of this discussion, but Persian Conversion gave you such wonderful response I am just going to say that I hope you will seriously consider what he is saying. Do you realize how many of the folks who spoke up in here were former "smokers"? That really should get your attention so that you will seriously consider your notion that admitted:

But I could be wrong.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Indy's Comment
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Listen John, I totally understand where you're coming from. In my 20s I smoked heavily for years, primarily for the same reason as you: I thought it enhanced everything I did into some kind of awesome experience.

But what I finally realized is that it doesn't let you experience a more profound life, it does exactly the opposite. It removes you psychologically from the profound life experiences you could and should be having.

Video games and TV shows are not what life is all about, they're just a distraction designed to keep you numb and unproductive. Life is much more beautiful when you are clear headed and engage life in a positive and productive way.

I hope you don't think I'm being preachy, I want you to understand that I went through exactly what you are going through and I feel like I have some wisdom on this issue that would really benefit you. It's totally up to you if you want to take advantage of it or not.

For a very long time, my life was basically getting high and watching TV/movies and playing video games. But that Mary Jane is a devious b***h. She tricked me into wasting a good portion of my prime that I will never get back. Do I miss her? Sometimes. But believe me, I have so much more without her.

Trust me. Just let her go.

Great answer!...badge?

PPGER's Comment
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(hit something wrong and it disappeared -- try again..) I can't speak to smoking weed, but I can speak to drug testing. Years ago, methods like storing clean urine might have worked, but nowadays the testing is so sophisticated that it is very hard to beat the system. My wife used to be a probation/parole agent and I used to be LEO. We saw all kinds of unsuccessful attempts by people to try and fake a urine test. The collection cups we used had thermometers built into the side of them so the temperature was immediately detected. Then there were dipsticks that gave instant readings as to proper pH, etc. and also detected any masking agents. Then there was the observation of the person giving the sample.

And like others have said, coming off home time may be the prime time to be tested. Even as an LEO, the dept. used to make us give "random" samples, although we often disputed the "randomness" of the person selected. The department was known to "randomly" select people who had just returned from vacation -- especially if it was out of the country. As when selected, we were still observed and watched like a hawk by a person who had no sense of humor!

While people's attempts to avoid detection were never successful (that I know of), they were often a source of entertainment for us. Like the guy who had a condom of someone's else's pee in his underwear and the condom bursting when he was patted down; or the genius who got urine from a friend because he had recently smoked weed. The urine did test negative for weed, but it tested positive for cocaine. I guess when he asked his friend if he smoked weed and he friend said no, he neglected to ask him if he was using any OTHER illegal substances. Now that WAS funny!

And as others have mentioned, even if you can fool the urine sample, if they do hair follicle, there's no fooling that.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

Seppo's Comment
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Everyone here has made some great points. I could talk to my own experience but I think it's been covered already. Since quitting smoking is not an option for you, you may have to quit driving. At very least you might want to quit smoking temporarily and work hard to bank some money in your savings account before you start up again. That way, if (when) you get popped, you'll have a nest egg saved up to fall back on while you search for a new line of work.

It definitely bums me out that I can't go to one of the dozens of legal weed shops when I take a few days of home time in Denver, but it's just not worth the risk to my job. Most importantly, I absolutely do not want to put myself or anyone else I'm sharing the road with in danger. Someday I'll get out from behind the wheel for good and take a job where the public's safety is not in my hands, and I'll enjoy it again. Let us know what you decide to do.

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