Pre Pass And Time Stamps

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Justin (Jakebrake)'s Comment
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Does anyone have any info for me about pre pass I run paper logs and am wondering if I get green light and take the thing out of the window before the other sensors do i still have a time stamp for that port or no?

Errol V.'s Comment
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Does anyone have any info for me about pre pass I run paper logs and am wondering if I get green light and take the thing out of the window before the other sensors do i still have a time stamp for that port or no?

If you get a green Pre-Pass light, you're not doing scales. Just keep on going like they aren't there.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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If you get a green light I would assume they've logged you in the system. They have to know who you are before they send the green light.

Weatherman's Comment
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If you get a green light I would assume they've logged you in the system. They have to know who you are before they send the green light.

Brett is correct. If you're ever inside a scale house having logs, manifests, etc checked, watch the computer screen (if its in view) as trucks pass through the sensor. It will list several things about each truck, including a time stamp. Saw this in the I 24 weigh station in Tennessee one night while they were inspecting my log book.

Manifest:

Bill of Lading

An accurate record of everything being shipped on a truck, often times used as a checklist during unloading.

The Persian Conversion's Comment
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Ok but the question is: are the computer systems all linked? What I mean is, if a DOT OFFICER is inspecting your logs in Tennessee, can they go back and see timestamps from a scale house 4 days ago in Montana? Would they even bother as long as everything looked good?

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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Ok but the question is: are the computer systems all linked? What I mean is, if a DOT OFFICER is inspecting your logs in Tennessee, can they go back and see timestamps from a scale house 4 days ago in Montana? Would they even bother as long as everything looked good?

They probably wouldn't even bother to check, unless something looked suspicious about your logs to begin with. There's an art to running outlaw logs and the most important key is to be very good at knowing how to write a legitimate one.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Justin (Jakebrake)'s Comment
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I have the logging down I just wondered about pre pass never used it before and a couple of guys here at my company said there is 3 scanners they said the first one gives you the green light and the others collect your info so if you take it down out the window right after the green light and hide it behind your back then they don't get your info I was wondering if this is true or not.

Dave D. (Armyman)'s Comment
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Why would you do that.

I look at it like this. I run paper logs. If I go through a scale (not pre-pass) and get the bypass, I'm going to keep on going, if I still have hours. I don't log anything, unless, I get stopped by DOT , or pulled into a barn and told to park it, and get inspected.

Even if I bring in a log, if I don't get any paperwork back from DOT, like bringing in paperwork at the scales in Wyoming, I never logged it in, because they just checked my bills and license and truck registration.

I would say don't flag it as on duty, unless you are getting a Level 1 to Level 3 inspection or stopped for "Operation Air Brake Check," or something like that.

Dave

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

The Persian Conversion's Comment
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Why would you do that.

I look at it like this. I run paper logs. If I go through a scale (not pre-pass) and get the bypass, I'm going to keep on going, if I still have hours. I don't log anything, unless, I get stopped by DOT , or pulled into a barn and told to park it, and get inspected.

Even if I bring in a log, if I don't get any paperwork back from DOT, like bringing in paperwork at the scales in Wyoming, I never logged it in, because they just checked my bills and license and truck registration.

I would say don't flag it as on duty, unless you are getting a Level 1 to Level 3 inspection or stopped for "Operation Air Brake Check," or something like that.

Dave

I think he's probably more concerned with being able to adjust the time he went by the scale on his logs.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Justin (Jakebrake)'s Comment
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Why would you do that.

I look at it like this. I run paper logs. If I go through a scale (not pre-pass) and get the bypass, I'm going to keep on going, if I still have hours. I don't log anything, unless, I get stopped by DOT , or pulled into a barn and told to park it, and get inspected.

Even if I bring in a log, if I don't get any paperwork back from DOT, like bringing in paperwork at the scales in Wyoming, I never logged it in, because they just checked my bills and license and truck registration.

I would say don't flag it as on duty, unless you are getting a Level 1 to Level 3 inspection or stopped for "Operation Air Brake Check," or something like that.

Dave

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I think he's probably more concerned with being able to adjust the time he went by the scale on his logs.

That's exactly what I was concerned about can't do it if I have time stamp and running milk is a lot easier when i don't time have time stamps from the ports

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

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