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Kyle B.'s Comment
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Travel day 1pt 1

Allow me to begin by telling a bit about my self. I'm a 25 yr old who still lives with his parents. (Sad I know) I work at the north bound kennybunk travel plaza at the Burger King. At this time I'm heading to Springfield MO hopefully I'll pass the dot physical and become a psd. I want this badly and yes I'm still studying for the exam in staying up to 10ish and sleep til I get close to Chicago which has a 4 hour layoverD:

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
G-Town's Comment
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Great Answer!

So I am on the road for tnt and I like it so far how ever its allot of the trainer telling me how to do things and most of the time him doing it. This is our second load at the time bolth drop and hooks. The one we got right now is for FedEx so far lest fave shipper at lest in calliforina the trailer we had to hook up to was blocked by a trailer, so my trainer took over and moved it

Kyle, I have been following your posts from the very beginning and I must tell you this one is a bit concerning. Your trainer should not be taking over for you in situations like you described above. If he believes you are deficient in backing and spotting, then he should be walking you through it, so you are at least learning the "moves". If in fact he is spotting a trailer while you are logged-in as the driver, he is in violation of HOS rules (especially if he is "out-of hours"). Even so if he is logging you out and then logging himself in as the driver, and performing "trucker" tasks that you need to learn and practice, he is circumventing your training and his responsibilities to teach you. You need to insist on performing this sort of maneuver when you are logged-in as the driver, at least making him explain his reasons for "taking over".

I suggest that you document when this sort of thing happens, and if it becomes really chronic I would confront him with it. Be your own advocate, it's your training time. You have a responsibility to yourself and Prime to make the most of it.

Hopefully someone else will chime in on this and offer better advice (if there is anything I didn't think of or if I am overreacting to this).

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Drop And Hook:

Drop and hook means the driver will drop one trailer and hook to another one.

In order to speed up the pickup and delivery process a driver may be instructed to drop their empty trailer and hook to one that is already loaded, or drop their loaded trailer and hook to one that is already empty. That way the driver will not have to wait for a trailer to be loaded or unloaded.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

Errol V.'s Comment
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Great Answer!

It was a tight as hell situation so he had to take over since again first week. Though I'm confused if I should be on duty while dropping/hook or docking or off duty. Any one willing to remind me as the training kinda confused me

Kyle, if you are doing work, no matter what it is, you need to be "on duty". The things you mentioned are On Duty work. Docking a trailer is technically driving, but if you are already logged in as On Duty for that little bit of time, that will do.

If you are docked and waiting for dock workers to load/empty your trailer, you might log that time as "Off Duty" since you aren't doing any company work for a few minutes.

As for your trainer "taking over", I agree with G-town. Which is better: A) a tight situation where you have to work it out, while an experienced trainer talks you through it; B) a tight situation you have to work out by yourself; or C) a tight situation where someone else takes over for you and you watch them work it out?

Your trainer may have been thinking of the amount of time you would take up to get out of that situation, but that's the "cost" of training: teaching takes time!

Kyle B.'s Comment
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I'll make a important note about traveling grey from Maine what can go wrong will, the bus that lest for Boston was late missed the bus I was suppose to take. Now I'm on a new bus not as late as the other ones. I'm tired and exhausted from carrying a heavy duff and a box containing a sleeping bag

Errol V.'s Comment
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I'll make a important note about traveling grey from Maine what can go wrong will, the bus that lest for Boston was late missed the bus I was suppose to take. Now I'm on a new bus not as late as the other ones. I'm tired and exhausted from carrying a heavy duff and a box containing a sleeping bag

Welcome to the wonderful world of the Grey Dog, Kyle!
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As long as you get to your terminal by Sunday night is all that counts for Prime.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Squirrel's Comment
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Im in Springmo right now for my upgrade. if your still here look me up.

Kyle B.'s Comment
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Im in room 207 if you want to drop by now I see the mini semi, I want to practice pretrip (even though I dont have my permit, or started orentation yet. I will look but absolutly wont touch it.

Shiva's Comment
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Im in room 207 if you want to drop by now I see the mini semi, I want to practice pretrip (even though I dont have my permit, or started orentation yet. I will look but absolutly wont touch it.

Good luck !

Justin G.'s Comment
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Hey Kyle B.,

I am thinking about Prime and want to flatbed. It may be a dumb question but do you get the choice of what type of truck you do your training and 30k team miles on? Or is it like assigned, luck of the draw, a gamble? Thank you and good luck man!

Kyle B.'s Comment
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Hey Kyle B.,

I am thinking about Prime and want to flatbed. It may be a dumb question but do you get the choice of what type of truck you do your training and 30k team miles on? Or is it like assigned, luck of the draw, a gamble? Thank you and good luck man!

I havent started orentaion yet but the application has multiple choices of what you want to pull, I asume its by choice but I dont know.

Kyle B.'s Comment
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Day 0: Arrival

Ok checked in, and studyed for a bit, went into the sim room and obserbed that for a bit, how ever not for long since I havent started ye and dont want to look like a creep. Went out to eat, Ive avoided the cafe since I am unsure if I am allowed in there yet. Ive decided to try and pretrip by my self, think of some stradigys to help me remember what is what.

Shiva's Comment
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Day 0: Arrival

Ok checked in, and studyed for a bit, went into the sim room and obserbed that for a bit, how ever not for long since I havent started ye and dont want to look like a creep. Went out to eat, Ive avoided the cafe since I am unsure if I am allowed in there yet. Ive decided to try and pretrip by my self, think of some stradigys to help me remember what is what.

Check out the one-stop inspection for Apex CDL Institute, on YouTube. It is great ! Good luck

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
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