Electronic Logs: A Minor Change.

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Phox's Comment
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They haven't really finalized it yet. The thing is, you'll need them, if your Qualcomm (or other e-log device) goes on the blink. My company is a very SMALL company.

Hey, I'm "ALWAYS" legal with my paper log.

I just have to figure a way to legally drive from Newport Beach, Virginia to San Diego, California in two days.

Dave

You let us all know when you find out how to open the worm hole that can take 17 hours of the 39 it would take a car to drive that away hahahaha. prob be more like 43-45 hours in a truck since they govn them to speeds that aren't even that of the limits in most cities (60-65 in san antonio depending on where you are, but once out of bexar county it goes up to 70,t hen 75 and eventually 80)

gosh it's gonna really suck to be limited to 62mph in an 80 zone.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.
Justin (Jakebrake)'s Comment
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Better dodge those coops and avoid time stamps and make sure you have plenty of energy drinks and stuff. You'll have to run outlaw logs the whole way so you can't afford any time stamps there and to the guy talking about the governed down trucks not all of us are have our balls clipped my truck has 560 horse and can move right along down the road at the same speed as cars.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Paul S.'s Comment
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I ran into it last night. Went on duty to deliver to a shipper and was on 21 min then drove 1000’ to park tractor and go off duty but it had changed all the on duty time to drive time. Going to try to approve all time before I start to drive since it should not be able to change approved time.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Ernie S. (AKA Old Salty D's Comment
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They haven't really finalized it yet. The thing is, you'll need them, if your Qualcomm (or other e-log device) goes on the blink. My company is a very SMALL company.

Hey, I'm "ALWAYS" legal with my paper log.

I just have to figure a way to legally drive from Newport Beach, Virginia to San Diego, California in two days.

Dave

You can if you run teams.....that way you have four 11 hour shifts to cover the distance......

Ernie

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.
Paul S.'s Comment
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Bud found a bug! (Maybe):

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Ah, but there's a bug in the new software. I was at 34 minutes off duty today, started the truck, started rolling right away, drove 5 minutes, and was charged with 9 minutes of drive time. It showed my off duty time as exactly 30 minutes.

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I went over on my 30, but didn't check. I'll do that tomorrow. Also, I think 8 hours on break doesn't seem to resurrect the available time for a split sleeper routine.

Has to be in sleeper (8) to do a split not just off duty.

Scott M's Comment
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Split sleeper berth only works if you do the first part (8 hours) as sleeper, otherwise it does not reset and correctly credit you with split sleeper berth.

When trying to do split sleeper, I always try to be sure I have at least 6 hours left on my drive line clock. For me, I have found having less than 6+ hours does not work out too well most times. But that's just me.

Ernie

Does high road training have this? "Split sleeper berth only works if you do the first part (8 hours) as sleeper"

I did not know this. I spent a lot of time studying High Road Training. Can anyone point this out? What page of High Road Training says the 8 hours has to be done before the 2 hours?

Maybe I missed it. I believe all the examples do have the 8 hours done first; but it never says that.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Errol V.'s Comment
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You're right. JetGuy, it's easy to be confused between sleeper berth and off duty.

Off duty is where you can be on the truck or off the truck, go home, go shopping - it doesn't matter.

Sleeper berth, is exactly that: you are in the truck and you're supposed to be laying down. That's why off duty does not affect the 8 hour split sleeper - because you don't even have to be sleeping when you're off duty.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

∆_Danielsahn_∆'s Comment
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You're right. JetGuy, it's easy to be confused between sleeper berth and off duty.

Off duty is where you can be on the truck or off the truck, go home, go shopping - it doesn't matter.

Sleeper berth, is exactly that: you are in the truck and you're supposed to be laying down. That's why off duty does not affect the 8 hour split sleeper - because you don't even have to be sleeping when you're off duty.

So, the first part in the sleeper, does that refer to the first part of your "day?" How would a person split their sleeper birth time? I am sort of lost here. confused.gif

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Errol V.'s Comment
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Dan wants to know:

So, the first part in the sleeper, does that refer to the first part of your "day?" How would a person split their sleeper berth time? I am sort of lost here.

When you get to study Hours Of Service, there's a cryptic mention about "splitting" your 10 hour break. First you take an 8 hour siesta, and you get back what's left on your clock when you went to bed. You can drive or go on duty for that time, might you must finish out the last 2 hours to reset your day. Before you get too involved with a split sleeper, study your hours of service first it could possibly melt your brain.

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Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Earl J.'s Comment
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I just found out the hard way that even with elogs you'll need a paper log as well. Got pulled Monday in OH for a random inspection and my JJ Keller elog was on the blink for some reason ( not just mine but nation wide issue) so when I could not show the officer my previous days log he asked do I have a paper log as back up, I didn't so I was put OOS for 10 hours for a log book violation. So hope this info helps others in the future.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

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